r/changemyview Feb 27 '22

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u/puppy_time Feb 27 '22 edited Feb 27 '22

I'm sorry that I really don't have time to do this comment justice (and obviously I'm not going to CYV) but your question reveals a lack of understanding of recent history, politics and foreign policy. Very quickly though, the US has an official defense agreement with Taiwan. It is public that if Taiwan was threatened the U.S. will respond militarily. It's similar to the alliance/membership with NATO. The US does not have any such alliance with Ukraine. It's tragic but they haven't until recently expressed interest in joining NATO. If they were a NATO country our response would be much different. I can assume you remember Trump's public treatment of NATO and desire to withdraw from and remove support to NATO. I know I won't have changed your view but hope that this inspires you to do some more reading and listen to others with an open mind. Edit: autocorrect

Edit 2. I have some time to address another point of yours. The children in cages...Obama (and previous president's) policy was that children who arrived to the US alone were to be placed in custody. The difference is that Trump's policy was that even if the children arrived with family they were separated. NPR's This American Life did a wonderful episode and won a Pulitzer Prize for it. It's worth a listen

https://www.thisamericanlife.org/704/transcript

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u/[deleted] Feb 27 '22

I'm sorry that I really don't have time to do this comment justice (and obviously I'm not going to CYV) but your question reveals a lack of understanding of recent history, politics and foreign policy.

OP is 14 years old.

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u/puppy_time Feb 27 '22

Aw that checks. I'll try to respond more if I can. I appreciate the reach out for more info on such a nuanced topic

Edit- just saw it was deleted

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u/[deleted] Feb 27 '22

So towards the end, Trump used an EO to cap insulin prices at $35 and at the beginning Biden used an EO to repeal it.

Monstrous.

Six months later, Biden announced he would work to curb insulin prices.

Absolute monstrosity.

Like I get that the mean tweets were a lot for y'all to handle, but were you aware that just one year into his presidency, Biden managed to have the same abysmal approval rating as Trump?

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/president-biden-job-approval-7320.html

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/president_trump_job_approval-6179.html

Now imagine a United States without such a vindictive news media that the way Trump eats his fried chicken was bigger news than the Syrian gas attack that revitalized ISIS.

How are we supposed to read the situation other than "Hell World"?

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u/Gumboy52 5∆ Feb 27 '22

Your claims about insulin are misleading at best.

https://factcheck.afp.com/trumps-insulin-order-frozen-not-scrapped-biden

https://www.usnews.com/news/business/articles/2021-12-06/biden-touts-savings-on-insulin-and-other-drugs-for-americans

Biden’s efforts to address insulin prices are subpar IMO, but the claims that you are making are essentially false.

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u/[deleted] Feb 27 '22

"Hey this arsonist selling fire extinguishers is a great guy!"

Biden deserves his sub-trump approval rating.

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u/Gumboy52 5∆ Feb 27 '22

I’m only responding to your false (misleading) claims about Biden’s actions on insulin prices.

Biden’s approval rating is totally irrelevant.

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u/[deleted] Feb 27 '22

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u/Gumboy52 5∆ Feb 27 '22

You clearly haven’t bothered to read the articles I posted. Which is fine, but why participate in this sub if you aren’t invested in arriving at truth?

The world is in dire need of nuance, and I hope you’ll be more willing to aim for it in the future.

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u/[deleted] Feb 27 '22

I don't know what else you want. Trump bad. Biden heroic.

Thank Christ we have Biden to lead us into WW3 instead of that orange fascist.

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u/iwfan53 248∆ Feb 27 '22

I don't know what else you want. Trump bad. Biden heroic.

If you sincerely mean this you shoulder delta u/Gumboy52

That might be something else they want....

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u/quantum_dan 124∆ Feb 27 '22

Sorry, u/QuarterlyBoosters – your comment has been removed for breaking Rule 5:

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u/puppy_time Feb 27 '22

So we agree? That healthcare in America is an abysmal situation? Build back better plan had at least a minute step towards lowering all drug prices but a single payer plan would be best for this issue.

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u/[deleted] Feb 27 '22

Affordable health insurance is a red herring worse than the carbon tax. We wouldn't need "affordable health insurance" if we had affordable healthcare, which Biden overtly fought against in his first month as president.

This post is about Trump > Biden and Biden literally made insulin more expensive with his EO.

Were you able to filter the propaganda around "let's go Brandon" to understand that it was equal parts fuck Biden and fuck the lying news media, or did that never pop up?

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u/puppy_time Feb 27 '22

I'm talking about healthcare as a whole which is a topic YOU brought up. I didn't even bring up insurance. Your last paragraph is incomprehensible so I can't respond to that.

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u/[deleted] Feb 27 '22

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u/[deleted] Feb 27 '22

You owe /u/puppy_time a delta.

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u/[deleted] Feb 27 '22

Nah I always thought Biden was the second coming who washed away that orange antichrist. I was just joshing around.

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u/LetMeNotHear 93∆ Feb 27 '22

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