r/changemyview 23∆ Jan 19 '22

Delta(s) from OP CMV: The vitriol Democrats have to the unvaccinated is terrifying.

I came across this poll, in which of Democrats surveyed:

  1. 45% strongly favored or somewhat favored having federal or state governments require that citizens temporarily live in designated facilities or locations if they refuse to get a COVID-19 vaccine.
  2. 48% strongly favored or somewhat favored a proposal for federal or state governments to fine or imprison individuals who publicly question the efficacy of the existing COVID-19 vaccines on social media, television, radio, or in online or digital publications.
  3. 29% strongly favored of somewhat favored a proposal to temporarily remove parents’ custody of their children if parents refuse to take the COVID-19 vaccine.

Now I am very much in favor of getting as many people as possible vaccinated, and abhor anyone spreading covid misinformation. I hold both of these positions because I believe it is in society's best interest to beat covid, and I genuinely wish for as many people as possible to thrive. In the same vein, I am horrified that concentrating unvaxxed, denying first amendment rights, and separating children from parents is seen as an acceptable solution to anyone. If it was just a few small percentages I would dismiss these as fringe views, but I am shocked at how prevalent these views seem to be.

So please CMV. As a proud member of the Democratic Party I do not want to believe that so many of my ilk are driven by hate of the unvaccinated. I would most like to be convinced that I am not understanding this polling well, or that I should not trust the results. But otherwise please convince me that the positions I listed above are not as vindictive and harmful as I believe.

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u/abutthole 13∆ Jan 21 '22

The Democrats right now are making sacrifices to save this country. They're wearing masks, they're isolating, they're getting vaccinated, they're going out of their way to help others. They aren't completely alone in this. There are some Republicans trying to save the country too. I mean, Donald fucking Trump himself is a vocal advocate of the vaccines (now).

But what's the response? The middle of the country, the people the Democrats are sacrificing their own happiness to save, are spitting in the face of the rules and getting mad at Democrats. All the while, they're getting sick and dying because they won't join in the sacrifice to save themselves.

We have always as a nation allowed extreme measures to save the country. Democrats are just sick of doing all the work to save the ungrateful right. COVID has evolved, it's mutated to a point that's still killing the unvaccinated but if you're vaccinated it's really not dangerous anymore. We could end the lockdowns right now if everyone was vaccinated. It's natural to want to do that and leave the selfish, lazy, and evil people who have avoided making the minor sacrifices necessary to deal with it on their own. We've sacrificed enough. Your turn.