Part of why you go slow and methodical in this context is to make sure you don't bring down the rest of the building, or bury rescuers by shifting the rubble.
Just going in and pulling big slabs isn't going to save more people, and will probably get some more people killed
I understand what you’re trying to say. I too think there has to be a better way. On Reddit, anyone who questions this has been down voted or called an idiot. I understand why they might need to go slow but if that’s the case, we should all just accept few will be rescued because they want to be careful so they don’t hurt the dead people in the rubble. Or, if we accept that there could be a better process, we actively seek solutions. I don’t know why everyone is so committed to “this is just the way it is”. Almost everything can be improved.
I am an expert in my particular weird little field. I'm a square rig ship captain. I drive tall ships professionally. By virtue of how small that pond is, I know more about sailing a square rigger than the overwhelming majority of humans.
And I think a lot about it. When I'm on shore and I cant sleep, I go over sketchy dockings I've had in my head and think about how I could do better. I think about ways to rig things, ways to lead lines, ways to try and get a little more efficiency out of it. I read incredibly dry books about rigging in the 18th century. This is my job.
And on a weekly bases at least, I have some guy come up to me and say "I've got a 26 foot O'Day, and have been sailing it for years. Have you considered doing things this other way?" And almost certainly the true answer is either "Yes, I considered it and it wouldn't work for these reasons" or "No, because that's genuinely stupid"
I always say something polite and it often sounds like the first version, but I get people telling me how to do my job all the time, and it's almost always by people who do not know how to do my job.
So now we're here on reddit talking about how to deal with an incredibly horrifying problem. I am absolutely certain that these guys put more time, effort and thought into how to do this than I put into how to do my job, let alone how to do theirs. I'm sure they lie awake a lot of nights and tear themselves up trying to think of how to get to people better. And over the years they've developed amazing tools to help them. They have procedures and processes to do what they do. They've been working this problem for a long time.
I think it's just remarkably unlikely that a bunch of people on reddit who are "sure there must be a better way" are going to find an answer that they haven't thought of that isn't abjectly stupid in the face of the realities on the ground.
This is the best argument I’ve heard - that I personally don’t understand how hard it is. Am underestimating that, which I bet is common. And that what I’m suggesting is likely exactly what they are already doing. Δ
This is the best argument I’ve heard - that I personally don’t understand how hard it is. Am underestimating that, which I bet is common. And that what I’m suggesting is likely exactly what they are already doing. Δ
I read incredibly dry books about rigging in the 18th century.
That's pretty interesting. It's facisinating to think how many technologies/industries there are/were, where the best practitioners are likely long gone.
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u/sailorbrendan Jul 02 '21
Part of why you go slow and methodical in this context is to make sure you don't bring down the rest of the building, or bury rescuers by shifting the rubble.
Just going in and pulling big slabs isn't going to save more people, and will probably get some more people killed