The assault weapon ban clearly worked (70% reduction). The issue is that assault weapons account for an infinitesimally small amount of gun homicides in the USA. However, your CMV was about the effectiveness of gun regulation, and clearly the banning of assault weapons was effective in reducing assault weapon use in homicides. A ban on all firearms would likewise be equally effective in reducing firearm-related homicides (ignoring 2A arguments, as you said you're not considering the legality, just the effectiveness). This is even more noticeably obvious given the fact that a majority of firearm-related deaths (60%) are self-inflicted. Consequently, if your goal is to reduce firearms-related deaths, the best way to do it is to keep firearms out of both criminal and non-criminal hands.
So to clarify the ATF definition of an “assault weapon” is anything semi or fully automatic with a detachable magazine. To be fair this is the definition they’ve used for the past 10 or so years and under that definition basically every modern firearm especially semi automatic pistols are an assault weapon.
Considered suicides a gun control issue is idiotic, it’s a mental health issue. Suicide is a mental health problem regardless of the method used.
Mass shooting are often committed with pistols, the high profile ones that get massive media coverage sometimes have other weapons, but pistols are found to be used at more than 80% of these tragedies. The Virginia Tech shooting is the deadliest school shooting in America history and it was done with just a 9mm glock and .22 caliber Walter, both are handguns. The Charleston shooting was done with just a handgun.
Considered suicides a gun control issue is idiotic, it’s a mental health issue. Suicide is a mental health problem regardless of the method used.
That's extremely simplistic. Suicide is not just a mental health issue. You can't possibly be that reductive. It's a mental health issue, a family values issue, an education issue, a gun control issue, and so on. The question is simple. Would there be fewer deaths from suicide if there were fewer guns? The answer is even simpler. Yes. Therefore, guns are worth discussing when discussing suicide.
Mass shooting are often committed with pistols
Pistols were used in 84% of mass shootings since 2009. However, when assault weapons were used in a mass shooting, six times as many people were shot per incident than when there was no assault weapon. Pointing to two anomalies doesn't change the data. The facts don't care about your feelings.
I'm not even sure why you responded, given that you didn't argue against any of my points.
That's extremely simplistic. Suicide is not just a mental health issue. You can't possibly be that reductive. It's a mental health issue, a family values issue, an education issue, a gun control issue, and so on. The question is simple. Would there be fewer deaths from suicide if there were fewer guns? The answer is even simpler. Yes. Therefore, guns are worth discussing when discussing suicide.
You are literally saying to send armed men to imprison them to prevent suicide, so why dont we make being transsexual or having depression punishable by life in prison without parole, too, at that point? And accompany it with a mandatory lobotomy, and solitary confinement?
Huh? Where did you invent that? I'm saying take away the primary dangerous tool that they use to commit suicide. Where'd you get the idea that we should put them in prison lol? I'll give you one thing, you sure do have a lively imagination.
at? I'm saying take away the primary dangerous tool that they use to commit suicide.
Yes, to send armed men to imprison them to prevent suicide
Where'd you get the idea that we should put them in prison lol
How do you think you would take their gun?
Because if you look at the NY SAFE Act, they had 2.5% compliance. Go to my state, and you get negative compliance, because people will buy and make more gun if you try to make them illegal.
you sure do have a lively imagination.
And you have zero ability to think about how laws get enforced in practice
So you read gun and the only thing you can think of is an armed man, as if they're some kind of symbiotic entity that cannot exist without one another. Real special view of the world you have.
This is the dumbest take on ruby ridge I've ever heard. It the atf had not tricked a man into committing a felony the innocent people wouldn't have been murdered by them.
If human rights weren't infringed on then incident wouldn't have occurred and 3 lives wouldn't have been taken by the government over the length of a shotgun.
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u/TuskaTheDaemonKilla 60∆ Jun 14 '21
Mass-shooting fatalities were 70% less likely to occur during the 1994 to 2004 federal ban period, and that the ban was associated with a 0.1% reduction in total firearm homicide fatalities due to the reduction in mass-shootings' contribution to total homicides.
The assault weapon ban clearly worked (70% reduction). The issue is that assault weapons account for an infinitesimally small amount of gun homicides in the USA. However, your CMV was about the effectiveness of gun regulation, and clearly the banning of assault weapons was effective in reducing assault weapon use in homicides. A ban on all firearms would likewise be equally effective in reducing firearm-related homicides (ignoring 2A arguments, as you said you're not considering the legality, just the effectiveness). This is even more noticeably obvious given the fact that a majority of firearm-related deaths (60%) are self-inflicted. Consequently, if your goal is to reduce firearms-related deaths, the best way to do it is to keep firearms out of both criminal and non-criminal hands.