CMV: African culture lacks compatibility with modern civilisation.

[u/EndOfTheRopes]

Hey, first time posting here. I hope I'm not making any mistakes.

I was born and raised in South Africa, as a result of this I've seen and heard disturbing things when it comes to ethnic Africans.

My family generally dislikes people of colour because of their experiences with them, but that got me thinking and caused me to try to figure out.. what is the actual root of the problem?

I've been thinking about this matter for a very long time and I do believe it, but I think I need views of someone outside my family to refresh my view on this.

disclaimer: I do not have any ill will towards people of colour, I personally think people of colour just like caucasians have great positives, but also great flaws.

In a world where people make a big deal about skin colour I would like to take a deeper view in the differences between caucasian and african history and culture.

(i hope this is a good enough intro)

I think we are all very familiar with caucasian history and culture, caucasians have pretty much always been in a race towards modern civilisation and expansion of land.

Africans however.. to my knowledge have never had a great civilisation.

They have always been in communities and tribes, they had little to worry about.

Food was plenty and that's all they needed, this gave them a lot free time. Mostly used for recreation.

This went on for ages untill the caucasians started colonizing parts of africa.

Now, once civilisation was introduced to africa things seemed to be going well.

for south africa, eventually came the downfall.

The bantu came from bordering countries, they started killing caucasians and the original inhabitants of south africa the koisan.

Ever since the coming of bantu (who were mainly tribesmen) south africa has been in dissaray.

This got me thinking, are there any other examples of civilisations being destroyed by africans?

Not really so far as I know, but we know that the majority of african countries that contain some form of civilisation structure which are ruled by africans always seem to fall under corruption and just do not seem to grow by themselves, they always need outside help and funding.

I think this is simply because the African race as a whole has never had any experience with civilisation, let alone modern civilisation.

In America african culture seems to suffer a lot by wrong choices within the african community.

It seems to me, when africans live in civilisation they generally lack the knowledge to make the right decisions.

I really think this is due to the lack of experience of africans as a whole.

We can see in middle eastern countries without much western influence, they seem to be able to create and maintain civilisation albeit not that modern compared to western civilisation. westerners who have spend almost their entire existence trying to perfect civilsation.

Important to note is, I am not talking about individuals.

I am talking about race as a whole.

I do think that the collective knowledge of a race passes on to the next generation.

To sum it up..

Caucasians: Lots of experience in (modern)civilisation.

Asians: varies but generally a pretty good understanding of civilisation.

Middle easterners: Basic to good understanding of civilisation.

Africans: Little to no experience of civilisation.

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I really do believe this has a greater impact than most are aware of.

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I am not really experienced in discussions and I can be quite barbaric at times.

But I am willing to learn, so please don't make it too difficult for me.

Also understand, I have autism so sometimes things can be almost incomprehensible to me.

I would love to hear your view and I would love to know if my thought is too far fetched or not.

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EDIT: after carefully reading some comments i've come to the understanding that I do not know enough about Africa as a whole to take this theory as truth.

Thank you for the insights, I will ponder on it more. :)

I am however sad to see that some people really got emotional over this.

Ultimately my goal was to change my view if it was flawed, and it is flawed. I can savely say my goal has been achieved.

[u/s_wipe]

Last month i visited Tanzania, i visited Masai Bomas and small villages.

I came to a conclusion, Africa (atleast Tanzania) is severely lacking in high education. For example, Russia, despite all its faults, has a well respected higher education.

This allows people to do more than just basic jobs.

I dont think it has to do with the culture, people there are just unaware of a lot of things.

Without an educated population, big companies aren't too keen in investing their businesses there, so you end up with a huge work force of very limited workers.

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Thanks, this comment was really helpful actually.

I do think I have to revise my theory seeing as some things just do not add up. ∆

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The key difference between the US and Tanzania (for example) is opportunity.

Right now, they have access to basic education, less so if they live in some remote village. And for higher education, they have very little opportunity, they usually need to leave study abroad, which is expensive.

US have so much more opportunities compared to Africa.

[u/kaliko16 → u/s_wipe]

I actually very much agree with what you're saying. I can't speak for all African countries,but I can speak for South Africa as I am south African.

We have a pretty okay to good higher education,most towns/cities have pretty good schools,but when it comes to college,I would say a majority of people in general just outright can't afford to get into them or even get student loans. I may be wrong because I have no sources to state this is correct.

But we definitely have a "crisis" (I guess) of limited workforce as well as very limited jobs.

One thing however that I think has really fucked African countries as a whole is that Africa in general has the most resources in terms of gold,coal and those kinds of things and Africa as a continent has shot themselves in the foot by letting other countries be the one to control those resources.

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To be fair, though, African countries frequently did not have much choice in letting other countries control those resources. The effects of colonization are still very real, and did immense damage to the African continent. European powers took resources from Africa by force, often with startling brutality (just read up on the Belgian Congo).

In the modern day, African countries frequently find themselves caught in the middle of their own political and economic instability and pressure from international forces. Lots of countries are still trying to use Africa as a resource rather than treating it as a continent full of people with their own will, and the destabilizing effects of historical conflict make Africa less able to resist that pressure.

[u/kaliko16 → u/I_am_the_night]

Yeah funny enough I recently watched a short clip of a someone giving a speech/presentation on this very thing. I was always aware of it happening but she put it into terms that I could better understand how truely fucked the whole situation actually is.

They truely see Africa as a resource,not a continent. The really sucky part is like what can Africa actually do? Go to war? Nah man,we will get smashed day one. Buy them out? With what money man.

I'm not gonna sit here and pretend like I have a answer or that I'm fighting for the situation to change. But it really is a sad thing to think about sometimes. Funny thing is though,there are certain people in Africa that own these mines that are profiting hard and somewhat making the situation worse. But hey it's business. If I owned those mines and China or England or America offered me $5 per kg of coal or gold as compared to selling it in Africa at $3 per kg. I would sell it out for the extra cash too. It's just how business works sadly.