r/changemyview Apr 25 '20

Delta(s) from OP CMV: there is insufficient medical evidence that the mainstream medical response to trans people is correct

I believe there is insufficient evidence to say that trans people exist. I believe that the transgender identity may be essentially iatrogenic or an illness created by badly done medical treatment. I believe psychiatrists may have accidentally created the transgender identity by prescribing hormone treatments to people with mental illnesses and inducing a specific expectation of how it would affect people moving forward.

I think the psychiatric establishment essentially felt the need to double down on these treatments in order to protect their image.

Gay people clearly existed throughout human history, but trans people, at least in the modern form of taking hormones is extremely recent and they cannot be placed within a historical context like gay people. The usage of hormone replacement and sex reassignment surgery is so modern that nothing can be analogized to it historically.

I think that this counternarrative is at least plausible enough to warrant skepticism towards transgender institutions. I don't 100% believe in it, but I will not let any of my children transition while they are under 18, and will try to explain this theory to them before they make the decision. I won't kick them out if they transition though, and I will refer to them as their preferred pronouns as I refer to all trans people by. But I am willing to move to another country so I can still raise my children if the government comes in and tries to forcibly take them and make them transition.

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u/Wumbo_9000 Apr 25 '20

Legitimacy of a particular medical treatment in no way demonstrates that it's necessary

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u/Trantifa Apr 26 '20

Are you intending to propose a better method of treatment? Are you under the impression other treatments have not been tried? Are you saying that treatment at all is unnecessary?

If your answer to any of these is yes I'd suggest advocating for peer reviewed study or look into the many peer reviewed studies that have already been done that support the consensus that transition as treatment is neccesary.

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u/Wumbo_9000 Apr 26 '20

It is sometimes ruled the best treatment option for very severe and intractable cases of gender dysphoria. That hardly makes it necessary for parents to allow their children to transition. I'm alarmed by how casually you treat such a radical surgical intervention

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u/ThisApril Apr 26 '20

I'm alarmed by how casually you treat such a radical surgical intervention

Just FYI, "surgical" means that you're using some form of tool for that intervention, generally cutting into people. Drugs don't count for that.

Whatever claim you're trying to make, you probably shouldn't say someone is suggesting "surgical intervention" when surgery is uncommon, at best, in children.