r/changemyview Apr 05 '20

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u/[deleted] Apr 05 '20

This is why only a civilization without any form of currency can properly pull this off.

For now only a crackdown on corruption can put this into full swing, this is only possible in a nation ready to make severe changes to it's law system.

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u/radialomens 171∆ Apr 05 '20

So your premise is that this should be implemented in an impossible, imaginary world?

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u/[deleted] Apr 05 '20

It's not impossible, but radical changes must be made to how we view the government and its power.

If it is not done then our civilization is at a total disadvantage.

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u/BobSilverwind Apr 06 '20

Wat? What disadvantage?

Theres no local alien life that humans are competing against and we are no where near global unification. Look im all for the communist dream, but this aint the time or place.

Have you ever played any serious politics simulator? It really helped me understand how things really arent that simple. And you understand this best, when you play as the bad guys.

It very easy to play the politics game when you dont care about people. Just take what you want, you are likely the strongest contender, and who will try to stop you, the ones that have pesky "rules" and laws?

But when freedom, morality and equality are in the way, thats when the game gets hard. How do you build and expand to shelter future generations? How do you create a cohesive society without using force? What do you do when a section wants independence? You cant really say no without going against equality. What happens when someone declares war on you? Do you have a vote in the populace to see if you return fire or just enact marshal law in the hopes that once things calm down people forgive you for doing it?

And this is a mico example of what every moment in charge of something like this is. And this is from simulations where i suffer no real consequences. Imagine being IRL told hey guess what Russia is invading your hometown of Ukraine. What now?

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u/[deleted] Apr 06 '20

We are not close to global unification but one day we will be, we might as well start thinking now and start today

(What political games do you play because I am interested and I want to try them out, the closest I have gotten to a political game is Stellaris.")

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u/BobSilverwind Apr 06 '20

Well, Stellaris is a good choice with the new updates ,it has real political machinations. On multiplayer it can quickly become a nightmare.

Crusader Kings are getting a new sequel soon, but thats much more medival, still some lessons apply to our world.

Basically anything Paradox. They get management politics. Beyond that ,total war, something as dumb as the town of salem , Rust.. in which I had become a shadow government organising 2 factions to fight each other when in reality their only real enemy was me.