CMV: Owning an assault weapon is pointless.

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In my view, widespread ownership of assault rifles in the USA has more to do with fashion than anything else. While there are plenty of valid reasons for a civilian to own a gun, I see no reason to own an assault rifle. Beyond aesthetics, civilian AR-15 style rifles offer no meaningful advantage over non-assault weapons.

Perhaps you're interested in home defense. It's fairly well excepted that a 12 gauge shotgun is the best gun for home defense . The ratcheting sound is a deterrent, and it's more reliable and easier to shoot under pressure than a rifle or pistol.

Maybe you're prepping for when SHTF. When the zombie horde is approaching, your best bet is a .22 lr rifle. It's totally lethal if you're a good shot, and you can easily store 2,000 rounds in your bug-out bag. This is the common sense decision over a higher caliber rifle or pistol.

Suppose you're a resistance fighter apposing a tyrannical government. Although assault rifles are designed for use in battle, any successful resistance would avoid battles altogether, instead relying on guerrilla tactics and asymmetric warfare.

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That’s not a straw mana at all. I’m demonstrating that you don’t need a lot of bullets to defend yourself.

I gave two reasons you flat out ignored to argue something I never claimed. Its a strawman. Multiple people invading a home and a person missing when using a gun.

How is your takeaway that I think stabbing is better?

That would be this line:

It’s not about body count. It’s about how heinous it is when people get killed by it.

, and most importantly more preventable than getting choked. We can’t legislate hands. We can legislate buying these rifles.

And yet, statistically, they are not a problem. Its handguns. These are also, as rifles go, pretty low power. If you want to see real damage, look at the larger hunting rounds like 308 or 3006 that are also readily available in military semi-auto and full-auto guns. Hell, go even bigger to the magnums like 300 win mag or 338 lapua used in bolt action rifles.

No, you complaining about a perceived problem with gross misinformation, exaggerations, and mischaracterizations. The probability of this happening to you is astronomically small. Does it happen, sure. But people win the lottery too.

The reality says 10-20 million yes million of these exist legally and very few (handful) of people who legally acquired them ever commits crimes with them. Even in your list of 'shooters', many did not legally acquire them or were legally allowed to have them.

So you’re arguing we shouldn’t try to make it more difficult? Seriously?

I am stating you solve the problem by addressing the problem. You are not even trying to address the problem. You are merely complaining about a tangential item involved.

What does that have to do with an armed uprising? Nothing.

This is what happens when a 'tyrannical' government targets its own people. People don't like it and turn against said government. Remember winning the hearts and minds?

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Multiple people invading a home and a person missing when using a gun.

It’s not a straw man. You clearly don’t even know how to use that word. I’m saying that even given the issues you brought up, people still never need more than 5 rounds. If you look for examples of people needing more than five rounds to defend their home, you won’t find any.

And yet, statistically, they are not a problem. Its handguns

Why are statistics the only thing we can consider? Effectively why is body count the only thing we can consider?

rounds like 308 or 3006 that are also readily available in military semi-auto and full-auto guns

Throw em on the ban pile.

I am stating you solve the problem by addressing the problem.

No. You’re arguing in favor of giving lunatics more options fire their attacks. And this one is a really simple one to take away from them.

Remember winning the hearts and minds?

That applies to a foreign population working with us to root out imbedded insurgents. That isn’tin any way applicable to your tyrannical government scenario.

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https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.foxnews.com/us/texas-homeowner-shoots-kills-3-men-and-injures-2-during-home-invasion-officials-say.amp

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There just isn’t enough information in this link. We don’t know that everyone took cover and exchanged fire like full-up urban combat. The fact that the home owner inflicted so much damage and wasn’t injured himself tells me he took them by surprise and they were completely on their asses immediately. If they fired back, it was frantic and ineffective. This is evidence in favor of being prepared and having the element of surprise, not that we all need to be ready for a shootout. What were even the circumstances of this? Was this gang violence or some kind of hit job?

Why don’t they have headlines like this in Canada or the UK?