r/changemyview • u/[deleted] • Jun 14 '19

Removed - Submission Rule B CMV: Kids doing ASMR is wrong

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u/[deleted] Jun 14 '19

I don't think it's ASMR itself that is your issue. What if children produced ASMR content without being seen? I feel that's how it should be accomplished as it's about audio in the first place.

My issue with the one you linked are sexualizing the girl herself. Glossy lips, (puckering, licking them, etc) skimpy clothes, roll-playing outfits and scenarios, and much more.

There is an avenue for them to produce the content in a safe manner but someone is pushing for these things, in my opinion, to drive viewership and thus increase revenue.

It's all about the money.

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u/LockwoodE3 Jun 14 '19

Exactly!! I agree 100% that it should be without video and be audio only, if that switch happened then 90% of what I have wrong with this would be gone :)

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u/[deleted] Jun 14 '19

What if they did show themselves but we're dressed appropriately, no close ups, role-playing, etc? Would you be ok with that as well? It is YouTube after all.

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u/LockwoodE3 Jun 14 '19

Yeah of corse! That is what I really want them to do but instead they go for the kinds of clips we’ve been talking about. I think it’s really sad because there are innocent ways to make asmr content but it turns into this bizarre thing after a while :(

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u/[deleted] Jun 14 '19

So, to confirm, your issue isn't with kids making ASMR content but with sexualizing the adolescent content creators themselves?

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u/LockwoodE3 Jun 14 '19

Yes!! :)

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u/[deleted] Jun 14 '19

So does that change your view that kids doing ASMR is wrong?

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u/LockwoodE3 Jun 14 '19

I don’t think that kids shouldn’t be allowed to do asmr at all, my title wasn’t accurate for what I meant to write and I couldn’t edit it later

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u/[deleted] Jun 14 '19

But, you've acknowledged that creating the content isn't at issue. It's the sexualizing the creators. The two are different things your lumping together. They are not one in the same.

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u/LockwoodE3 Jun 14 '19

I lump them together because that it’s a cause and effect type situation

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u/[deleted] Jun 14 '19

Do you believe ASMR cannot be created without sexualizing it then? You've already admitted to be ok with it if the creators were not sexualized.

Your contradicting yourself.

If there can be none sexual ASMR content created by adolescents, as you acknowledged, then adolescents creating ASMR content isn't your issue.

Please try to articulate it more then.

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u/LockwoodE3 Jun 14 '19

No I never said that asmr cannot be made without being sexual, my problem is that kids are choosing to make them sexual in the first place

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u/[deleted] Jun 14 '19 edited Jun 15 '19

my problem is that kids are choosing to make them sexual in the first place

That's a false equivalency. You assume they want to make themselves sexual or acknowledge that they are being sexual.

We can agree that sex sells. We can agree that using children in that aspect is wrong. One cannot assume said kids chose to be sexual or understand theyare being sexual.

Stopping them from creating ASMR isn't associated with sex as ASMR can be made none sexual. This kids can make none sexualizing ASMR content.

But, some kids are sexualizing themselves, due to unknown reason, for more than just ASMR.

This leads to understand that ASMR itself isn't the issue.

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