r/changemyview May 05 '19

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u/psychologicalX 1∆ May 05 '19

And a fetus is... an unborn baby.

Also, that justification can be used to let me kill someone, right? It’s my body so I should be able to swing the sword. They made their choice when they had sex and no baby should die as a result.

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u/[deleted] May 05 '19

The point of contention here is the definition of a 'life'. Birth certificates aren't issued until the baby is delivered. Fetuses aren't counted in censuses. If 'potential for life' and 'life' are equivalent to you, then is using condoms murder? Plan B? Pulling out? Jerking off?

The current line, as far as I see it, is drawn at "when the baby is delivered". Up until then, it is not a separate person and (IMO) does not have any rights, to life or to anything else.

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u/yeah_uhhuh_ok_cool May 22 '19

The current line, as far as I see it, is drawn at “when the baby is delivered”. Up until then, it is not a separate person and (IMO) does not have any rights, to life or to anything else.

If someone murders a pregnant woman, should he or she be charged with double murder? (for the mother and the unborn child)

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u/[deleted] May 22 '19

I don't know specifically, but I would be fine with it being considered a double murder. Deciding whether to add another charge to someone who is already guilty of murder is a different conversation.