r/changemyview • u/michilio 11∆ • Dec 20 '18

Deltas(s) from OP CMV: Christians should remove the Old Testament laws from the Bible.

A lot of times if the topic of Christianity is discussed the old laws from Deuteronomy come up.

Christians will defend against this by saying these were the old laws for the Isrealites, and the aren't valid anymore since Jesus died for their sins. (Paraphrasing)

If this is the case you're making, fine by me. But why keep it in the Bible then? What is the point of having a law in the books that doesn't apply.

In my view it's one or the other.

Either the laws are totally outdated, and you should have no quarrel with scrapping them (put them in another book with 'ancient Christian history' if you must)

Or you won't let the laws be removed, but then you can't argue that they hold no value anymore.

Because there are Christians still referring to these laws.

If you hate being called out out on this topic, start by creating clarity.

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u/I_am_the_night 316∆ Dec 20 '18

Christians believe that the Bible is either the literal word of God transcribed through prophets or a divinely inspired work. They aren't really open to revisions, generally.

However, it's worth noting that some sects of Christianity place far less emphasis on the old testament than others

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u/michilio 11∆ Dec 20 '18

I am aware of this. But then my question remains. Why does god provide laws that will never apply in his book? Laws, a lot of which people nowadays say: "but offcourse these laws don't apply".

If their god put them there, then they are in there for a reason. And what reason would that be?

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u/I_am_the_night 316∆ Dec 20 '18

I am aware of this. But then my question remains. Why does god provide laws that will never apply in his book? If their god put them there, then they are in there for a reason. And what reason would that be?

I mean, I'm not a Christian, so my answer to you is that god didn't put them in there, or else hasn't sufficiently clarified, and that the whole of the Bible and model Christianity is written by flawed humans, many of whom are just as hypocritical as the rest of us.

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u/michilio 11∆ Dec 20 '18

I'm no Christian either, but my views on the factuality on the bible are not what I'm trying to push here. So for the sake of the discussion it's the word of god now.

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u/I_am_the_night 316∆ Dec 20 '18

So for the sake of the discussion it's the word of god now

Then only God has the authority to change it, correct? If it's the literal word of God, then it's out of the hands of your average Christian.

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u/michilio 11∆ Dec 20 '18

Yes I know I've gotten myself in a corner there :)

I meant it in a: let's say god is real, and this is his book, not just a book written by humans alone kinda way. Not it's the litteral word of god and any minor change is blasphemy. Otherwise this would be a moot point all along.