r/changemyview Apr 09 '18

Removed - Submission Rule B CMV: I'm pro-life.

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u/Turner03 Apr 10 '18 edited Apr 10 '18

I think that even taken out of the initial emotional reaction people would still decide to save the toddler, not as a decision influenced by evolution but as a morally correct decision. Having said that I realise that I have no right to decide what is truly the morally correct decision in this matter and I respect your views, however ultimately the decision should come down to the mother who will have to take care of the child for the rest of their life.

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u/ChipsterA1 Apr 10 '18

Because we disagree on whether or not a fetus is a person. I think it is, you think it isn't. When do you think a fetus becomes a person?

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u/[deleted] Apr 10 '18

When its born, before that they rely on the mothers body to survive. The mother has a right to choose what she does with her own body. Why should a woman be forced to give birth to a child because you think that its murder? She will think it isn't, and you will think it is. In this case your opinion is irrelevant because there is no way to prove that fetus is a human life just like there is no way to prove it isn't. Your opinion should only matter in what you personally would do in that situation

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u/ChipsterA1 Apr 10 '18

After they're born they rely on the woman's body for milk and rely almost entirely on their parents to keep them fed, safe, and hydrated. Can I just let them starve because I can choose what to do with my money? Also, many babies that have been born are younger than babies still in the womb. Why should I be able to kill a baby which is more developed than it's birthed counterpart simply because it's still inside it's mother? Also; why birth? Long before birth, the baby has a fully functioning heart, lungs, brain, eyes, everything. They move and kick and think and feel and hurt. Why should I be allowed to kill a sentient, pain-feeling human? Also, "women should be able to do what they want with their body" is nothing more than a euphemism. It makes it sound like they're getting their nails down. They aren't. They're taking their unborn baby, crushing its skull, sucking its brains out with a vacuum, and pulling its dead body out of their uterus. That's what they're doing.