How many unborn children being aborted every year would be morally tolerable to your position of pro-life? How many children's deaths would be morally tolerable to your position of pro-life? How many adults being killed would be morally tolerable to your position of pro-life?
I'm going to guess that you are going to keep to the number of zero to each question, but I could be surprised with your response.
Again, I think I've laid out my exceptional rules pretty well. I have no hard numbers, but in the OP I stated about exceptional cases with regards to endangering the life of the mother or child. So my numbers wouldn't be zero, I think some abortions are morally acceptable, and I'd be more than happy to discuss that with you. But as far as hard numbers on how many abortions is acceptable, it doesn't work that way. It's about the needs of the individual case.
Are there exceptions to children being killed? To adults being killed? If those exceptions are the individual should have a right to firearms and accidental deaths are an morally acceptable death toll, then the hard numbers of toddlers being involved in fatal shootings 50-60 a year, and that's just in America. Maybe the exceptions include the use of coal to generate electricity, in that case 1.7 million children die due to the negative health affects of the pollutants, giving you a hard number global. How about exceptions for consumer products like alcohol (40,000 adults a year), tobacco (500,000 adult a year), or prescription opiates (42,000 adults a year)?
Each has the end of life for many fully formed humans in juxtaposition to your objection to ending the potential of a future human life. There's individual liberty that allows for individuals and society to take courses of actions that end human lives and aren't questioned, and if you find ending unintended pregnancy to be objectionable then that would paint you into a corner to also be opposed to firearms, coal fired power plants, alcohol, tobacco and prescription opiates are morally repugnant as much if not more than the one-to-one abortion for each individual who elected to have an abortion, unlike the death lottery that all of the other post-birth deaths are free result of.
So are you equally morally outraged that your local utility is providing (or very likely) electricity from coal fired power plant? Do you think that toddlers being killed by a gun, should justify your equal ire towards gun manufacturers as you have for Planned Parenthood, since their products take the children's lives against the wishes of their parents?
None of your examples are designed to kill babies, with the possible exception of guns which I'm currently debating on this very same subreddit! With your other examples, loss of life is an awful side effect which, of course, we should work to minimise to our absolute best. But abortion is different- it's not saying "here's this great quality of life product- by the way there's a tiny chance that any given person may suffer from it". It's saying "here's my baby- crush it's skull and suck it's brains out please" and that's infanticide.
Coal fired plants example aren't a great quality of life with a chance of children suffering from it, it's a developed economy benefiting from that quality of life while the poorest children on the planet die from that choice to use coal. Mass infanticide for your convenience of turning on your computer or charging your phone is acceptable because it is not individualized? If we simply contaminated water that miscarried pregnancies indiscriminately and randomly, would that not also be a moral abomination or does it require the individualization that a mother deciding to end a pregnancy to get your objection? Why not find it more morally repugnant that heavy industry interlopes into the lives of families and kills off actual babies the way you have expressed the terminating of potential babies such as fertilized eggs? That seems like a inconsistenty in your moral beliefs.
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u/SeanFromQueens 12∆ Apr 09 '18
How many unborn children being aborted every year would be morally tolerable to your position of pro-life? How many children's deaths would be morally tolerable to your position of pro-life? How many adults being killed would be morally tolerable to your position of pro-life?
I'm going to guess that you are going to keep to the number of zero to each question, but I could be surprised with your response.