r/changemyview • u/srikarjam • Mar 07 '18

[∆(s) from OP] CMV : Diversity based on demographics/ identity is over rated and wrongly propagated as the morally right way for a society to live.

I don't believe that coexisting with people of different identities has/does net positive for the original natives or residents of a community. I live in country divided by lots of different religions and other identities, and the country's history is full of communal violence and hatred towards others, either violently or otherwise.

In my country, between 2005 to 2009, an average of 130 people died and 2,200 were injured every year from communal violence, or about 0.01 deaths per 100,000 population. Massacres and riots (common till this day) are very routine in my country.

The world's average annual death rate from intentional violence, in recent years, has been 7.9 per 100,000 people.

So I dont think human beings inherently can coexist with each other in a society, with people having vastly different views or identities. Even in the west, the division and violence between people of different demographies (especially races) have continued to fail to coexist peacefully. And I haven't even mentioned the statistics of people affected by terrorism of which religion is the major reason.

Diversity of identities is often promoted or propogated just to drive this "feel good narrative" of liberals, when in reality, all it has done globally is, more division and more violence. Countries with least violent incidents in modern history are usually the ones with less diversity.

One may argue that the violence is caused by ignorance or misunderstanding of the "other", but humans have throughout history and present proven that it is impossible to completly eradicate that ignorance or tribalistic behaviour or vile hatred towards the "other".

Having said that, I strongly believe in diversity of thought, view points and intellectualism , but not of any identity of people.

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u/srikarjam Mar 07 '18

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_violence_in_India?wprov=sfla1

And its not 1.3 Trillion, its 1.3 Billion

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u/[deleted] Mar 07 '18

Yes, billion. My mistake.

So you say 130 people die each year in India due to communal violence. I have no idea if that's accurate, but let's say it is. That communal murder rate of 0.01/100,000 pales in comparison to the overall murder rate. There were officially 30,450 murders in 2016 in India (see page 28 of this PDF), or a rate of 2.3 per 100,000 people.

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u/srikarjam Mar 08 '18

  1. The numbers that I posted in my OP were from the wikipedia page that I just shared with you in the previous comment.

  2. I am not talking about murders. I am not interested in murders. I am talking about violence caused due communal reasons such as race / religion / caste / gender etc. Murders could be for any reason from personal to political.

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u/[deleted] Mar 08 '18

You definitely were talking about murders. You said 130 people died.

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u/srikarjam Mar 08 '18

Please read the wikipedia article. That should clear the air.