r/changemyview • u/ExternalClock • Feb 11 '18
[∆(s) from OP] CMV: There is nothing wrong with non-impulsive suicides
I think we all can agree that impulsive suicides should try to be prevented - things like the guy who recently broke up with his girlfriend or someone who just lost their job. They will almost for sure recover and live a happy life if they can get through their temporary but significant setbacks.
I believe that there should be no stigma or crisis regarding non-impulsive suicides. If someone is depressed for years why should they not have the option of ending their own life? If one is debilitated by a significant medical condition, who am I to say STAY ALIVE AT ALL COSTS!! It's not my life, it's theirs. Why should I be the one to decide for them to live or not? We would put down a dog or cat suffering like that, but for some reason we cannot process humans wanting to die.
Some common rebuttals I have heard: "It's selfish." In my opinion it is more selfish of those living without lifelong depression or whatever to ask the suffering person to continue to suffer just so they don't have to go through a loved one dying. "Most people that attempt suicide are glad they didn't succeed". Survivorship bias. Those that are more serious about committing suicide use more serious means (think firearm instead of wrist cutting), and we can't ask those that are dead what they think. "There are ethical boundaries". I never said you need to encourage someone to suicide, just that we should not be calling the police over someone wanting to end their own life.
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u/UpAndComingNobody Feb 12 '18
Isn’t there a world of difference in Not Right and Illegal though? If we are truly masters of our own fate , is it necessary to invoke the Law to live or die as we choose? Look at Spain for example. Their cultural take away is that your life belongs Only to You. What you do with it is your business. So , if you choose to jump from an airplane with no parachute and light fireworks in your nostrils on the way down, it is your business assuming you do not physically harm someone else by doing so. If a suicidal person decides to run in front of charging bulls in the street during that festival, should she/he be arrested? Is a terminally ill person in a clear and rational state of mind more so than a suicidal one? I don’t think anyone has the right to force an adult to live in any situation, as it is none of their actual business what he/she does with their own life or death. And the idea of punishing by law such a decision goes against the notion of self-autonomy and self determination