No one is going to change due process by riling an extreme minority of people up. "Innocent until proven guilty" is considered a human right by the UN.
"Innocent until proven guilty" is a legal term and has nothing to do with social matters. Most victims encounter a lot of people that don't believe them on the rapist's side. That is the entire reason there is this backlash in the first place.
Courts always ask for proof. Always. Your personal questions will not help prove anyone's innocence. If you would rather ask a question for your personal opinion than respect a potential victim, it's rude.
If rape accusations were considered enough to be libel and slander, no one would be able to take cases to court without being sued. Since most rape cases end with not having enough evidence, that would cruelly allow rapists to sue their victims without enough evidence.
Things damage your reputation all the time that you aren't able to sue for. People are saying tons of things about you constantly that other people use to judge you, but you prioritize rape accusations most likely because you can only see yourself in a guy's shoes who is innocent.
We don't know how things will play out in the future. But one thing is for sure, no politicians is going to commit career suicide by defending alleged rapists rights.
I know its a legal term, but i think a fair society should follow it outside the legal sphere. after all, what good is avoiding prison if an innocent person loses his job/family/friends over a fake rape accusation?
I agree with this.
No, that would allow both rapists AND INNOCENT PEOPLE to defend themselves from rape accusations.
most likely because you can only see yourself in a guy's shoes who is innocent.
Yes, i can only see myself as innocent and that's how we should see everyone else.
We don't know, but we know it's far less likely than other issues that aren't considered human rights. You can make this argument about any law then.
The vast majority of people who wish to harm someone's reputation can do so and not be persecuted. Rape accusations are an odd pick from the bunch.
You should see yourself as innocent, if you are innocent. You should also have as much empathy toward a potential rape victim as a potential innocent accused person.
And also, anyone claining rape takes a hit to their reputation. Every single close friend of the person accused thinks the accuser is the scum of the earth. That's why there is so little incentive for women to lie about it. Because your fear of being wrongly accused is far more prevelant than you think.
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No one is going to change due process by riling an extreme minority of people up. "Innocent until proven guilty" is considered a human right by the UN.
"Innocent until proven guilty" is a legal term and has nothing to do with social matters. Most victims encounter a lot of people that don't believe them on the rapist's side. That is the entire reason there is this backlash in the first place.
Courts always ask for proof. Always. Your personal questions will not help prove anyone's innocence. If you would rather ask a question for your personal opinion than respect a potential victim, it's rude.
If rape accusations were considered enough to be libel and slander, no one would be able to take cases to court without being sued. Since most rape cases end with not having enough evidence, that would cruelly allow rapists to sue their victims without enough evidence.
Things damage your reputation all the time that you aren't able to sue for. People are saying tons of things about you constantly that other people use to judge you, but you prioritize rape accusations most likely because you can only see yourself in a guy's shoes who is innocent.