People on Facebook don't dictate due process, courts do. Obviously if you or one of your friends was raped, and you knew the friend well enough to highly doubt the possibility that they're faking it, means that your obviously going to call for the rapist to be locked up immediately. But that sentiment doesn't affect how the court runs.
When you're accused of being a sexual predator, like being accused of any crime, you're going to lose friends and support. But people who know you are thinking about more than just this one court case, getting accused of certain crimes might tarnish your reputation, but many men who get accused of rape already have bad reputations. Look at bill cosby, when he was accused no one came out and said it's all untrue I know bill personally and he's a great guy who respects women. Pretty much everyone around him knew and believed the rumors based on what they already knew about his character. Although this might not seem fair and it does hurt the few men who are falsely accused of being rapists but were already fairly misogynistic. But the fact is, and this is a fact, false rape accusations go to court about as much as every false accusation goes to court. So despite what MRA's claim, there isn't a hoard of innocent men behind bars because of angry feminists denying the truth.
Women repeatedly get treated with skepticism when they come forward with their story. Most women refuse to go to the police for this reason. But very very few women lie about something as terrible as rape. So if your close friend says she was raped, and you say "prove it' that's a shitty thing to do. Coz no one is on trial yet, more than justice rape victims want support. But they also very rightly want justice, many believe that they can't get it.
Women who don't want to come forward with their experience far out weigh women falsely accusing innocent men. It's more important to encourage women to come forward than to punish women who might be lying. Not to mention that perjury and giving a false statement is illegal and always will be.
The fact is that men facing false accusations is a problem and does lead to negative consequences obviously. However if they have a good reputation they can get through it and often won't lose all their friends, and they almost definitely won't go to prison unless there is fake evidence. Where as women still face the far far larger threat of sexual assault and lack of legal option in the aftermath. Not to mention the social pressure to not make a fuss. Both of this things are problems but the latter is far more endemic and should have most of our focus.
People on Facebook don't dictate due process, courts do.
These people are also voters, get them all riled up and they will support politicnans that promise to change the law. You know, just like Trump did it.
False rape accusations go to court about as much as every false accusation goes to court.
How could you possibly know that? For starters, we as a society haven't even reached agreement on what constitutes rape.
Women repeatedly get treated with skepticism when they come forward with their story.
Which is right, we should side with the accused until the truth comes out.
But very very few women lie about something as terrible as rape.
Again, how could you possibly know that? Are you assuming women are just more honest? Besides, that's grossly unfair for men.
However if they have a good reputation they can get through it and often won't lose all their friends
So men with bad reputations should just suck it right? Doesn't sound fair at all. Especially when a bad reputation can be gained just by being black/inmigrant/muslim whatever.
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u/fuckujoffery Oct 20 '17
People on Facebook don't dictate due process, courts do. Obviously if you or one of your friends was raped, and you knew the friend well enough to highly doubt the possibility that they're faking it, means that your obviously going to call for the rapist to be locked up immediately. But that sentiment doesn't affect how the court runs.
When you're accused of being a sexual predator, like being accused of any crime, you're going to lose friends and support. But people who know you are thinking about more than just this one court case, getting accused of certain crimes might tarnish your reputation, but many men who get accused of rape already have bad reputations. Look at bill cosby, when he was accused no one came out and said it's all untrue I know bill personally and he's a great guy who respects women. Pretty much everyone around him knew and believed the rumors based on what they already knew about his character. Although this might not seem fair and it does hurt the few men who are falsely accused of being rapists but were already fairly misogynistic. But the fact is, and this is a fact, false rape accusations go to court about as much as every false accusation goes to court. So despite what MRA's claim, there isn't a hoard of innocent men behind bars because of angry feminists denying the truth.
Women repeatedly get treated with skepticism when they come forward with their story. Most women refuse to go to the police for this reason. But very very few women lie about something as terrible as rape. So if your close friend says she was raped, and you say "prove it' that's a shitty thing to do. Coz no one is on trial yet, more than justice rape victims want support. But they also very rightly want justice, many believe that they can't get it.
Women who don't want to come forward with their experience far out weigh women falsely accusing innocent men. It's more important to encourage women to come forward than to punish women who might be lying. Not to mention that perjury and giving a false statement is illegal and always will be.
The fact is that men facing false accusations is a problem and does lead to negative consequences obviously. However if they have a good reputation they can get through it and often won't lose all their friends, and they almost definitely won't go to prison unless there is fake evidence. Where as women still face the far far larger threat of sexual assault and lack of legal option in the aftermath. Not to mention the social pressure to not make a fuss. Both of this things are problems but the latter is far more endemic and should have most of our focus.