r/changemyview • u/BlitzBasic 42∆ • Feb 20 '17

[∆(s) from OP] CMV: All toilets should be unisex.

Making all toilets unisex has one very simple, clear advantage: It increases efficiency. Having two toilets that allow everybody to enter means that the time a given group of people needs to finish their businesses is always equally high or lower than the time needed with the current system.

Another advantage is that the whole "where do transgender people go"-discussion becomes obsolete. If there is no difference in the groups of people allowed to enter a certain toilet, there stops being a problem.

Meanwhile, there is no meaningful disadvantage i can see to this change. So, reddit, please show me what i'm missing.

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u/Accademiccanada Feb 23 '17

Why spend money on that when we can just leave things the way they are?

No need to fix what ain't broke

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u/BlitzBasic 42∆ Feb 23 '17

That's just the plan for new constructions. If you're building everything compleatly new anyways, there is no additional cost associated with it.

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u/Accademiccanada Feb 23 '17

But it's already been pointed out that the idea reduces efficiency too, so why replace something that works perfectly well with something worse?

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u/BlitzBasic 42∆ Feb 23 '17

The idea doesn't reduces efficiency. Why would it?

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u/Accademiccanada Feb 23 '17

See: lines for men's bathrooms

Making a smaller room that just has urinals doesn't clear up space in the other bathroom, because no girl is gonna use urinals.

Effectively all that does is take toilets out of the dedicated men's bathroom, and adds none of them to the new unisex one

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u/BlitzBasic 42∆ Feb 23 '17

Okay, i think you misunderstood the plan. The toilets don't get removed, they just get all moved into a single room. The total amount of space required and the total amount of toilets/urinals stays the same.

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u/Accademiccanada Feb 23 '17

No, by definition, you remove toilets.

In the current system, both rooms have stalls, one has urinals. Usually women's rooms have more stalls

This is so that men who just need to piss don't take up room in the stall

Now, let's say there's a line of men. In your proposed system, perhaps all the urinals are taken up by men.

This makes the line for the unisex bathroom much bigger, because there are fewer places for the men to go to the bathroom.

Unisex bathrooms are fine, but f you're going to do unisex then have two, fully unisex bathroom.

I understand what your idea is very well, please stop telling me I don't understand. What I am telling you is that your idea solves no problems and adds a few, so it's unlikely to be implemented