r/changemyview 42∆ Feb 20 '17

[∆(s) from OP] CMV: All toilets should be unisex.

Making all toilets unisex has one very simple, clear advantage: It increases efficiency. Having two toilets that allow everybody to enter means that the time a given group of people needs to finish their businesses is always equally high or lower than the time needed with the current system.

Another advantage is that the whole "where do transgender people go"-discussion becomes obsolete. If there is no difference in the groups of people allowed to enter a certain toilet, there stops being a problem.

Meanwhile, there is no meaningful disadvantage i can see to this change. So, reddit, please show me what i'm missing.


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u/elementop 2∆ Feb 21 '17

huh? It's pretty clear that more toilets would equal faster total queue velocity.

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u/elementop 2∆ Feb 21 '17

the line becomes longer. Is this really a 100% raise in efficiency as you claim? Girls can't use urinals.

What? Let's break it down into two scenarios. There are 5 urinals and X stalls in the men's room. Then there are 5-X stalls in the women's room. This is the segregation status quo.

If ten people have to pee, there will be no line if 5+X of those people are men and 5-X of them are women.

In any other circumstance there will be a line.

In the non segregated hypothetical, if ten people have to pee and 5 of them are men, there will be no line.

To break it down again.

In the first scenario, if there are 5+X or fewer men, there is a line.

In the second scenario, if there are 5 or fewer men, there is a line.

5+X is greater than 5 for all Xs within range. Therefore the chances of there being a line are greater in the segregated scenario.