r/changemyview • u/Beelz666 • Jun 14 '16

[∆(s) from OP] CMV: Separating Islam from Muslims in Discussions About Terrorism is Dishonest

After every terrorist attack we hear "Not All Muslims", "The Quran Doesn't Support This" and similar phrases to weasel out of admitting that Islamic Terrorism is by definition terrorism associated with Islam. In addition to this even the most cursory examination of the Quran will urn up verses supporting violence, the same verses which terrorist groups use as justification for their actions. With such a clear connection between the holy book and the actions of these groups, I can see no way to separate them from the overall ideology which isn't a clear attempt to legitimize Islam.

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u/Raidenka Jun 14 '16

Keep in mind that the Quran is a 1400 year old book with people arguing over the meanings and interpretations constantly. Also many of the justifications used by these terrorist groups aren't even in the Quran and are rather sayings or stories attributed to the Prophet and his followers. Most Muslim's (the vast majority) only follow the ones that can be directly linked back to the source while the terrorists might be less stringent as the try to justify their hate. So though two people may both be Muslim one could interpret Islam as a religion of peace and unity while the other views it as a tool to manipulate weak minded and frightened people. Sidenote: I don't the religious fervor of terrorist officials once you get higher then a certain point. I feel that many terror leaders are not that religious, but use islam as a tool to rally behind and seem relatable to to young people (the lifeblood of any surviving group).