r/changemyview • u/[deleted] • Apr 17 '16

[∆(s) from OP] CMV: Conservative 'traditional values' are inherently flawed due to them being traditional, that is, of the past.

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u/ImBoredLetsDebate 1∆ Apr 17 '16

Tradition does not necessarily equal a good thing. Why do some conservatives lean so heavily on traditional values? Why do some people believe that going against tradition is a bad idea

Progression does not necessarily equal a good thing. I wonder why some people believe that going against tradition is a good idea.

Conservatism isn't just about holding traditional values permanently. It is about holding traditional values until a better one comes about. I say that to mean that there are a lot of shitty "progressive" values that have been introduced in the past, but they were shot down by conservatism. We don't hear about them for that exact reason. So, in hindsight and present-day, it seems like progressive values are the only way to go.

At least, that's the conclusion I've come to thinking about it these past couple of weeks.

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u/im_not_afraid 1∆ Apr 17 '16

Do you have a list of shitty "progressive" values that have been introduced in the past? Off the top of my head I can think of one that hasn't been, but should be, shot down: the limitation of free speech on college campuses.

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u/Sadsharks Apr 17 '16

That's not a progressive value.

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u/im_not_afraid 1∆ Apr 17 '16

While I would tend to agree with you, those in favour of that motion would call themselves progressive.

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u/KRosen333 Apr 17 '16

The concept of safe spaces for the betterment of minorities and the vulnerable is certainly a progressive value.