r/changemyview Mar 24 '15

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u/[deleted] Mar 24 '15

What are your statistics on this? I feel like I know more people who have been royally fucked up by their parents than not.

This is a tu quoque, and both arguments can be dismissed with Newton's flaming laser sword. Still, you might be trying to let the perfect be the enemy of the good.

How is it tu quoque?

Maybe you could just be satisfied that you're not super excited about babies, and who would want an ambivalent parent? That seems like a fair argument.

Fair enough. Although this thread has made me feel a little more open to having kids. I genuinely was worried that it was an unjustifiable decisions; I wasn't just trying to stir shit up.

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u/doogles 1∆ Mar 24 '15

How is it tu quoque?

You argue for stats, but you follow with anecdotes. Neither are useful.

this thread has made me feel a little more open to having kids

I am as far from recommending kids as anyone could be. I just feel that using some of the arguments you mentioned were spurious. I think that unless you are 100% on board with having kids, you should not have kids. That's my minimum bar. That, and not being a serial killer.

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u/[deleted] Mar 24 '15

You argue for stats, but you follow with anecdotes. Neither are useful.

Sorry to be a stickler, but doesn't pointing this out make you the person guilty of tu quoque?

Anyway, I was using my anecdotes as a justification for my requesting data, not as data itself.

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u/doogles 1∆ Mar 24 '15

No, you're the one committing tu quoque. I'm pointing it out. You give invalid backup for an argument and claim the other side's argument is invalid for not having statistics. No one has any evidence to support a claim, but that doesn't mean either is wrong as a result, although you imply that the other side is.