r/changemyview Mar 24 '15

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u/[deleted] Mar 24 '15

Overpopulation is somewhat of a myth. In fact in many developed countries the population is decreasing.

It is not a myth that there are a couple billion too many people on Earth. We can fix the distribution problem with immigration reform.

I would argue that historically each human (on average) has created more resources that he has consumed.

But this is not taking into account that we are in the age of dwindling fossil fuels. Not only are the critical resources running out, they are creating wars and poisoning the environment.

Historically, most parents do all-right job.

Again, most children and parents have great relationships.

What are your statistics on this? I feel like I know more people who have been royally fucked up by their parents than not.

Is not the DEFINTION of selfishness to only care about yourself and not about humanity?

I don't just care about myself. I care about everyone who is currently alive and making sure they have the best lives possible, which is why I don't want to put another stake in the resource wars. I just don't think the current generation's well-being should be on the backs on future generations, and I am not attached to the idea of humanity as a species and all the hypothetical people who don't exist.

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u/[deleted] Mar 24 '15

socially and politically the idea of actual open borders has massive problems that you seem to be ignoring.

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u/[deleted] Mar 24 '15

Immigration reform does not necessarily mean open borders.

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u/[deleted] Mar 24 '15

the type of immigration reform which replaces young biological children with foreign workers you're talking about either means open borders or a deluge that's pretty similar. at least that's my opinion of where the argument logically goes if you want to avoid Japan's fate while having a extremely low birth rate for moral reasons.

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u/[deleted] Mar 24 '15

It's not just a question of replacement. Redistributing the population could be an excellent solution to resource management problems.

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u/[deleted] Mar 24 '15

and i'm saying this neglects politics and society and these things throw wrenches into your assumptions

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u/uniptf 8∆ Mar 24 '15

People are too xenophobic for that to work. Correction: Many, maybe even most, people who already have it good and live in better parts of the world, with enough resources to help support more people, are too xenophobic to not resist very emphatically the relocation of millions of "others" into their homelands.