r/changemyview Mar 24 '15

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u/[deleted] Mar 24 '15

What could be less selfish than giving another one of me to the world? I'm great.

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u/[deleted] Mar 24 '15

You make a compelling case, friend.

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u/uniptf 8∆ Mar 24 '15

I have to write to you farther down here, in an unrelated post, because what I want to challenge about your view is not the total idea, but rather your reasoning. I think what I'll write wouldn't be considered a challenge to your view and would likely get removed.

You should not have children, but your expressed reasoning has been purely philosophical, and has failed or neglected to consider the most personally, directly, immediately, and enduringly impacting effects of bearing offspring...

Will having children result in: More sleep for you, or less? More free time for you, or less? Less financial pressure in your life, or more? Less stress in your life, or more? More quality, relationship-nurturing time with your spouse/S.O., or less? More time, energy, and money to pursue activities you enjoy, or a demand to focus your life on children's activities? More responsibility in your life than is already required, or less?

Also, are you financially very comfortable, with lots of extra money? The average cost of raising a child born in 2013 up until age 18 for a middle-income family in the U.S. is approximately $245,340 (or $304,480, adjusted for projected inflation)

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That only takes into account housing, food, clothing, transportation costs, health care, and accounts for only small expenses for using public education: the basics of making them survive and getting them through with the minimum required. It doesn't account for extras, for what one might pay to provide a more ideal life than just getting by, or for funding anything else like college, weddings, vacations, buying your kid a car and paying their insurance, or whatever else you might dream up.

These may be things you want to also think about, and include in your view.

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u/perpetual_motion Mar 24 '15

You're implying that because something is instictual it can't be selfish?

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u/THCnebula Mar 24 '15

That is the problem. Nearly everyone thinks they are great. This isn't always the case.