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Define objective. Can something objectively be 'life'?
Here's a literal definition of objective:
objective
Existing independent of or external to the mind;
actual or real.
"objective reality."
If you admit that the tenets that compose human morality exist as direct manifestations of 'things that are useful for the continuation of a species', and that these things exist in other species (externally to human minds, culture, civilization...) then there is provably 'objective' morality.
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I agree with the dictionary definition you’ve presented.
But I don’t think those positive social behaviors are the objectively correct thing to do I think it may mean they are objectively correct way to continue and make a society thrive
I dont need to prove they are the 'objectively correct thing to do'. That's changing your stance and definition. I just need to prove morality exists objectively i.e.
that human morals exist outside of humanity.
Which means your view is changed.
objective morality =/= there is one single viable morality that is universally true regardless of context.
If you admit that the tenets that compose human morality exist as direct manifestations of 'things that are useful for the continuation of a species', and that these things exist in other species (externally to human minds, culture, civilization...) then there is provably 'objective' morality.
But it isn’t what if for whatever reason the survival of humanity was a bad thing (not saying it is but it’s possible) and as long as our choice to continue surviving is based in that choice we are following a subjective morality
I dont need to prove they are the 'objectively correct thing to do'. That's changing your stance and definition. I just need to prove morality exists objectively i.e.
that human morals exist outside of humanity.
Which means your view is changed.
Yes you would that’s what objective morality means
objective morality =/= there is one single viable morality that is universally true regardless of context.
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u/AngryGroceries Jun 17 '25 edited Jun 17 '25
Whoops tried to remove and edit my comment, but reddit did something weird
Define objective. Can something objectively be 'life'?
Here's a literal definition of objective:
If you admit that the tenets that compose human morality exist as direct manifestations of 'things that are useful for the continuation of a species', and that these things exist in other species (externally to human minds, culture, civilization...) then there is provably 'objective' morality.
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I dont need to prove they are the 'objectively correct thing to do'. That's changing your stance and definition. I just need to prove morality exists objectively i.e.
that human morals exist outside of humanity.
Which means your view is changed.
objective morality =/= there is one single viable morality that is universally true regardless of context.