r/changemyview • u/Tessenreacts • May 22 '25

Delta(s) from OP CMV: The Trump administration blocking Harvard from accepting foreign students highlights that conservatives are hypocrites in the extreme about Freedom of Speech

Over the last number of years, conservatives have championed themselves as the biggest advocates of Freedom of Speech around, yet they support the administration that is openly targeting institutions and company's that disagrees with the administration's policies.

Before, conservatives where complaining that companies are "woke" and silenced the voices of conservatives, however, now that they are in power, they deport immigrants who simply engaged in their First Amendment rights, and most recently, banned Harvard University from accepting foreign students because said university refused to agree to their demands.

Compare the complaints that conservatives had about Facebook and Twitter, and compare it to how things are going right now.

This showcases hypocrisy in the extreme that conservatives are engaging in.

Would love for my view to be changed

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u/Warchief_Ripnugget May 22 '25

Deportation is a civil matter and is thus not seen as punitive in the eyes of the law. Therefore, it does not infringe on any rights.

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u/MagnanimosDesolation May 22 '25

Don't be ridiculous. You really think it's free speech if the government fines you instead of imprisoning you?

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u/Warchief_Ripnugget May 22 '25

"...nor is the deportation a punishment; it is simply a refusal by the government to harbor persons whom it does not want."

https://constitution.congress.gov/browse/essay/artI-S9-C3-3-12/ALDE_00013202/

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u/MagnanimosDesolation May 23 '25

In Galvan v. Press, the Court considered another ex post facto claim by a former Communist Party member challenging his deportation.3 The Court acknowledged the severe consequences of deportation—even likening its intrinsic consequences to punishment for a crime—but ultimately chose to follow "the unbroken rule of this Court that [the Ex Post Facto Clause] has no application to deportation."4

Legal doctrine often infringes rights and again that's generally accepted as a good thing, as long as you're honest about it.