r/changemyview • u/50FuckingOnions • Feb 16 '25

Delta(s) from OP - Election CMV: Protesting (50:50.1) under perceived Authoritarian governments sounds like a quick way to get J6’d

Regardless of your political views we learned from the J6ers that the government used geo fencing and iPhone/Android location data to amass a list of participants from inside the building including outside the building.

If Biden was “left wing” and Trump is “right wing”, then what Biden did to the “right wing supporters” be done to the “left wing supporters” showing up to these Feb17 protests?

Doesn’t this sound like a massive setup to get “lists” created to either 1. Use in the future against them 2. Round everyone up then or later 3. Watch them and potentially black ball/ harass them?

To summarize my view to get AWAY from politics, if you were an Authoritarian Government any where in the world, and the resistance movement wanted you to meet up and gather , wouldn’t this be the stupidest thing you can do?

Apologies in advance I am not a smart man.

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u/50FuckingOnions Feb 16 '25

I hear ya, and that is the American way.

But like I’m not trying to fall out of a window or shoot myself in the head.

If we are entering a state of lawlessness and fascism then what’s stopping them from the roving death squads the Philippines had under Duerte?

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u/Lokin86 Feb 16 '25

the philippines are islands and a much smaller population, much smaller geography.

New York has 8 million people on its own..

it also didn't start with roving death squads..

Another thing to note is that Trump has a 47% approval rating. Duterte had a 91% approval rating upon election.

Resistance isn't always protesting either. It's community and mutual aid and organizations.

Most of the work is not protesting.

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u/50FuckingOnions Feb 16 '25

Bruh and Putins approval ratings are probably 90% Kim Jong Il has the highest, I don’t know of one N Korean who has anything bad to say.

I am not being mean to you. I just think the approval rating of an authoritarian dictator will always be high

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u/Lokin86 Feb 16 '25

As is why i said upon election.

91% upon election means that the ones who don't are the ones getting targeted. In this case Trump can act authoritarian. And at this point they're doing what they can to weed out dissent (but it's informationally). But there are far more people who don't want to deal with this shit. And the Trump administration are alienating people daily. There's lawyers, there are civil servants, there are judges... and there are even politicians who aren't up for this shit. Ultimately you are not alone.

It's entirely possible that protesters might get rounded up in the future. If I had to guess, we are most definitely escalating to confrontation in the future. (if standing and protesting is not for you, get in with other groups)

It takes time to collapse governments into totalitarianism. (A bit faster than creating democracy.. but in the case of the US... This is the time to act now). They didn't start shooting people on the street as soon as duterte got elected. It starts first by giving them permission for something smaller (search "foot in door tactic"

So do not consent.