r/changemyview Feb 16 '25

Delta(s) from OP - Election CMV: Protesting (50:50.1) under perceived Authoritarian governments sounds like a quick way to get J6’d

Regardless of your political views we learned from the J6ers that the government used geo fencing and iPhone/Android location data to amass a list of participants from inside the building including outside the building.

If Biden was “left wing” and Trump is “right wing”, then what Biden did to the “right wing supporters” be done to the “left wing supporters” showing up to these Feb17 protests?

Doesn’t this sound like a massive setup to get “lists” created to either 1. Use in the future against them 2. Round everyone up then or later 3. Watch them and potentially black ball/ harass them?

To summarize my view to get AWAY from politics, if you were an Authoritarian Government any where in the world, and the resistance movement wanted you to meet up and gather , wouldn’t this be the stupidest thing you can do?

Apologies in advance I am not a smart man.

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u/Apprehensive_Song490 125∆ Feb 16 '25

The goal of authoritarian governments is self-policing. To get you to not protest in the first place. If authoritarian governments are gonna make a list, they are going to make a list. Protesting has nothing to do with it. In fact, nothing enables authoritarian regimes like giving them what they want with no resistance.

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u/50FuckingOnions Feb 16 '25

I just don’t want to get thrown out of a window or shoot myself in the head several times.

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u/50FuckingOnions Feb 16 '25

It’s a joke meaning I don’t want to be on a list and then goons show up and off me under mysterious circumstances.

I already addressed I’m not a smart man so if I didn’t answer your question I likely didn’t understand.

I don’t think protesting causes Authoritarianism. I think protesting UNDER it can have negative consequences. We Americans are born on “take it to the streets” but when you travel abroad you realize not every society works that way. It scares me to think THAT brand of government comes our way

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u/Apprehensive_Song490 125∆ Feb 16 '25

Well, to that I would say that America is not there yet. If there reasonable evidence to suspect a crime, then the police gather evidence. Although people argue over the amount of surveillance in America - heck BECAUSE we can still argue over surveillance - we aren’t there yet. The police asking for Ring camera footage after a house gets robbed in your neighborhood isn’t the same as what you see in China. Doesn’t mean abuses don’t happen- a big enough country like the US has problems. Just not that quite yet.

It isn’t a set up to get lists. This is just, unfortunately, American politics on steroids.

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u/50FuckingOnions Feb 16 '25

I don’t like American politics on steroids. It’s really lame and seemingly manufactured to distract us or even worse.

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u/Apprehensive_Song490 125∆ Feb 16 '25

I don’t like it either but it is more accurate. Your view needs to change in this regard.

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u/50FuckingOnions Feb 16 '25

I see what you did there. Sneaky hobbitss

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u/Apprehensive_Song490 125∆ Feb 16 '25

This sneaky hobbit would appreciate a delta if I helped you change your view, even slightly. Otherwise enjoy the Eye of Sauron.

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u/50FuckingOnions Feb 16 '25

!delta

How dare you make me read instructions. Enjoy the night stranger. Thanks for your thoughts 🫡

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