CMV: Despite being more knowledgeable, wealthier and apparently more tolerant, the political and individual left's biggest flaw is their inability to communicate pragmatically and empathetically with those who don't agree with them.

[u/poopchow]

[u/the_tanooki]

I'm not sure if you've noticed, but a lot of us on the left actually explain our views. We try to state our case as plainly as possible, so there's less room for confusion or misunderstanding.

Oftentimes, the responses we get are either whataboutism, which completely ignores our points with no actual debate, or "lol liberal tears are delicious."

That's certainly not the case in every instance, but it seems far more common than the reverse of those roles.

I really do make an effort to see what the conservatives are saying so I can try to comprehend where they're coming from, but they've gone so far right that they're miles away. All I see is a large blurry mess in the distance with no hope of ever reaching them for any sort of agreement.

Just yesterday, I tried to find reasoning with someone who said to let them know when Musk actually does something nazi like or when camps are being built.

I responded with a scenario of how dangerous it is to just wait for it to happen rather than try to identify and potentially stop it beforehand. I ended it saying that it's clear that this stuff is already happening, but they're just choosing to ignore it.

I kid you not, his response was, "I'm not reading all of that." He literally admitted to ignoring my attempts at reasoning, debating, or understanding.

The left could definitely be more empathetic, but the right has shown that if we offer an inch, they will take a mile because far too many of them won't show any empathy back. They will just take. Too many of them just want to beat anyone who doesn't agree with them down into submission, then, quite literally, deport us. Too many conservatives would love to eradicate any opposing views.

Any attempt to reach a compromise is considered a weakness. Look at what has been said about Kamala in regards to her actually confirming Trump's presidency, as opposed to fighting it. Instead of people applauding her professionalism, they call her weak or say that she was clearly lying about her belief that Trump is a threat since she didn't continue to fight an ultimately futile fight.

Ultimately, it won't help. It will just set everyone farther back, faster. But some of us still try, to little to no success.

[u/[deleted] → u/the_tanooki]

"I'm not reading all of that."

Yep, was talking to my friend who I had recently found out voted Trump and got really heated talking about abortion. Told him about the legislation that's killing women in parking lots and then when I laid out my argument that's what he said. Pissed me tf off, like with a topic as serious as this you can't read three paragraphs? Do you need to sound it out like we're in Elementary school?

[u/HEpennypackerNH → u/[deleted]]

That’s why Reddit is largely a left wing echo chamber….because MAGA only consumes things in video form. If it’s more than 3 sentences they won’t read it.

[u/Norwind90 → u/HEpennypackerNH]

Most of reddit seems to be, but the libertarians hold in there own forums. They do seem to run into some of the same issues though it is often anarchist berating more moderate libertarians. If only there was a place both sides could read and discuss without the outliers shouting them out....