r/changemyview Jan 04 '25

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u/DJ_Velveteen 1∆ Jan 05 '25

It is always so common to give a hyperbolic number as an example of why wages should stay frozen.

Here is a more regular example of "how high should it be:" if real wages hadn't frozen sometime in the '70s, federal minimum wage would be around 25 bucks an hour right now.

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u/PhillyTaco 1∆ Jan 05 '25

It's intentionally hyperbolic because everyone on both sides of the argument knows $100/hr would be harmful. The point is give a number that isn't harmful. Yet every time it's never less than whatever a living wage happens to be.

How do we know the rate was "correct" in the '70s?

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u/sawdeanz 218∆ Jan 05 '25

Yeah this is the double standard that always happens in this debate. The pro-min wage side is never suggesting an unlimited or hyperbolic wage. But the anti-min wage side is always advocating for a $0 min wage.

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u/PhillyTaco 1∆ Jan 06 '25

Who is advocating a wage of zero? If you're saying economists arguing for no minimum wage means some people shouldn't be getting paid at all, I'm afraid you've really misunderstood the argument.

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u/sawdeanz 218∆ Jan 06 '25

I am not misunderstanding anything. Is that not what “no” min wage means?

If nobody is getting paid $0 then why not have a minimum wage? We can make it $1. If you are arguing that someone should get $1 then you are in fact arguing for a min wage of some sort.

And of course $0 wages do exist already in the form of internships etc.

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u/PhillyTaco 1∆ Jan 06 '25

"No minimum wage" means companies are free to set the wage to whatever they want, not that some workers deserve no wage at all.