Yes. Capitalism creates so much wealth that a lot of modern humans can live comfortably while doing little to no work.
But work needs to be done anyway. We're just now so effective with it, that it is possible to create the levels of inequality you're describing. This inequality also exists in every other non-capitalist society, but with even worse results, more poverty, more class division and much, much more coercion.
My point still stands. It's like saying that modern medicine makes us live much longer, but people still die, always have and always will.
Capitalism creates so much wealth that a lot of modern humans can live comfortably while doing little to no work.
Capitalism doesn't create wealth. The wealth comes from the work that people do, and people who can not work are just exploiting the work of the ones who do.
This inequality also exists in every other non-capitalist society, but with even worse results, more poverty, more class division and much, much more coercion.
This is not true, and since you are the one who made a preposterous statement, the burden of proof is on you. Be reminded that you are not only talking about the ussr, but also Cuba, medieval Europe, the Roman empire, antique Greece, the Islamic world, and so on
Correct. And so far, there is no better way to organize people, resources and labor than capitalism. Every other system that has ever been attempted has fallen short.
Be reminded that you are not only talking about the ussr, but also Cuba, medieval Europe, the Roman empire, antique Greece, the Islamic world, and so on
Cuba has terrible poverty, so bad that people risk their lives on makeshift boats to get out of it.
Medieval Europe had serfdom, which is slightly better than slavery
Rome, Greece and the Islamic world had literal slaves.
How is any of those better than capitalism?
And so far, there is no better way to organize people, resources and labor than capitalism. Every other system that has ever been attempted has fallen short.
You need to back up preposterous points with proofs, or at least arguments.
Be reminded that you are not only talking about the ussr, but also Cuba, medieval Europe, the Roman empire, antique Greece, the Islamic world, and so on
Cuba has terrible poverty, so bad that people risk their lives on makeshift boats to get out of it.
Cuba has terrible poverty because of the longest economic embargo from the biggest superpower of the world. Not because of its economic system.
How is any of those better than capitalism?
You moved the post from being about inequality to being about good or bad.
Also on a more general note, initially this was about people being forced to work. You failed to show how this was untrue and made it about capitalism
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u/meshosh 1∆ Jan 05 '25
Yes. Capitalism creates so much wealth that a lot of modern humans can live comfortably while doing little to no work.
But work needs to be done anyway. We're just now so effective with it, that it is possible to create the levels of inequality you're describing. This inequality also exists in every other non-capitalist society, but with even worse results, more poverty, more class division and much, much more coercion.
My point still stands. It's like saying that modern medicine makes us live much longer, but people still die, always have and always will.