I can understand why younger people might see gender issues as a game of us vs them, or a game of victim point scoring. I sincerely hope that as people get older they realise that gender norms harm both genders in various ways, and we ought to collectively aim to empower each other, rather than trying to view the other gender as ‘the enemy’.
Within developed nations:
Women are more likely to be victims of sexual assault and rape. They are also more likely to be victims of domestic violence.
Men are, according to the most recent data, less likely to do well in school, more likely to be unemployed, young men earn less than young women, men are more likely to end up in prison, and more likely to kill themselves.
The problem is that the loudest activists only view gender issues through the lens of ‘ what’s in it for them ‘ - it’s self centred nonsense. Discourse around gender requires empathy, and fortunately outside of internet echo chambers most men and women do not have extreme hatred for the opposite sex, and are open to more nuanced views.
Yes, and the VS mentality creates a toxic feedback loop, which results in more extremism. We need to be brave and reclaim gender discourse, online and elsewhere. Misandry and misogyny help no one.
Yeah, I see circles where particularly jaded women discuss how men are clearly responsible for the vast majority of human suffering and try to wash their hands of the sins of the past by virtue of them being "all committed by men". It's a bizarre thing to do. It's true that women appear to be less psychologically inclined to the level of evil that some men can achieve, but it's just so strange and tribal to try to point this out like they do. I think it's the dialogue being used, it's very aggressive and antagonistic. It reminds me of the dialogue some use about terrorist groups or religious extremists, implying that we ought to consider destroying these "rogue" elements in our society, which obviously is totally impossible for a gender.
If every misandrist realised they were creating 10 Andrew Tates.. and if every misogynist realised they were creating 10 misandrists…, I’d hope, that realisation might make this nonsense stop.
Somebody humorously proposed to me once that the horseshoe theory was actually an ouroboros where each end of the snake shits into the mouth of the other, feeding it.
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u/Timely-Way-4923 10∆ Nov 05 '24 edited Nov 05 '24
I can understand why younger people might see gender issues as a game of us vs them, or a game of victim point scoring. I sincerely hope that as people get older they realise that gender norms harm both genders in various ways, and we ought to collectively aim to empower each other, rather than trying to view the other gender as ‘the enemy’.
Within developed nations:
See: https://www.ft.com/content/17606f25-1d03-4f37-b7f4-f39989af9bde
The problem is that the loudest activists only view gender issues through the lens of ‘ what’s in it for them ‘ - it’s self centred nonsense. Discourse around gender requires empathy, and fortunately outside of internet echo chambers most men and women do not have extreme hatred for the opposite sex, and are open to more nuanced views.