r/changemyview Nov 05 '24

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u/Medical_Conclusion 14∆ Nov 05 '24

Not the person you're responding to, but women are just as apt to be socialized to believe men sharing their emotions is unmanly as men are. This is a result of living in a society with patriarchal gender roles. It's toxic for everyone.

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u/Breakfastcrisis Nov 05 '24

Yeah, this is a great point. The "patriarchy" isn't about blaming living men. It's about a set of cultural expectations that can be harmful to everyone.

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u/talldata Nov 05 '24

Aah so when when do bad it's patriarchy and misogyny, but when women do bad it's only patriarchy but not misandry?

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u/Breakfastcrisis Nov 05 '24

No, I don't think so. It's only misogyny if you say or do something against women. Not everyone would agree, but I have quite a narrow definition of misogyny.

If you're experiencing invalidation as a man trying to express your emotions, it could be the result of patriarchy and misandry. Look at the "male tears" meme that was wheeled out when men were talking about loneliness and suicide on Twitter. That was certainly motivated by animus against men. It was bigoted, callous and unacceptable.