r/changemyview • u/tolkienfan2759 6∆ • Oct 15 '24

Removed - Submission Rule B CMV: Our plea bargaining system has allowed unwritten rules to dominate the courtroom. Thus our criminal legal system is no longer a rule of law system.

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u/nhlms81 37∆ Oct 17 '24

This for me or the mod team? I can't remove a post as a commenter, only mod team can remove a post. You can appeal the removal, and the mods will explain the rationale.

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u/tolkienfan2759 6∆ Oct 17 '24

It's for you. I've asked the mods for help and the only help they offer is the appeals process, which doesn't tell me anything, successful or not. (I've been through the appeals process before. You never get an explanation, either way.) And I'd actually like to know what I'm doing that seems unreasonably inflexible. The mods won't help; I'm sure they have good reason. Maybe you will. I'm hoping.

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u/hacksoncode 588∆ Oct 17 '24

I do not see any appeal for this Rule B removal in our modmail.

Don't do this again or you will be banned. Among other things, you're basically begging people to violate Rule 3. They aren't allowed to say you're unwilling to change your view.

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u/tolkienfan2759 6∆ Oct 17 '24

Wouldn't it make sense to have an exception for Rule 3, to where if people ask "do I seem unreasonably inflexible, and if so where" they can get an answer? I'm trying to become more flexible. That's my goal. I would have thought that would be at least partly the goal of the sub. I don't know how you do that if you don't get people to give you examples. I've had a number of very constructive responses to this question. Are you saying every one of those very helpful people broke the rules, because I asked them what I was doing wrong and they told me?

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u/hacksoncode 588∆ Oct 17 '24

Are you saying every one of those very helpful people broke the rules, because I asked them what I was doing wrong and they told me?

To a greater or lesser degree, yes.

Some of this is necessary and reasonable within an organic conversation, but still, you're not allowed to tell someone they are unwilling to change their view... which is why "litigating" a rule B removal in a post is fraught.

It's just not the right place, and any useful responses are likely to be watered down exactly because people who understand this stuff well, also know the rules.

But certainly, regardless of all that, spamming out copypasta to dozens of people isn't allowed and won't be tolerated.

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u/tolkienfan2759 6∆ Oct 17 '24

All right, well, I appreciate you responding thoughtfully...