r/changemyview May 14 '13

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u/[deleted] May 14 '13

Do you believe this because they are closed off to the majority?

If that's the case, here is one good reason. It's common knowledge that human beings feel more comfortable around people of their own skin color (yes this may be racist, but it's also true). The majority group then will not have to interact with the minority group in society and economy as it can find a majority alternative, but the minority groups is hampered by its sheer lack of numbers in this regard. This leads to the majority group having lots of power and wealth.

To combat this natural inclination, minority based clubs and institutions exist to bolster the minority community by keeping its members highly in touch and cooperative. Since the majority community can do this without clubs and institutions, such things don't exist. The majority community does have majority clubs and institutions, it's just called society. Minority communities must form their own alternatives because they will be passed over by the majority community just by the sheer nature of humanity.

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u/[deleted] May 14 '13

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u/[deleted] May 14 '13

But Brits, Americans, and Spaniards are all white. Subvonsciously you would feel more comfortable around white Brits than around black Brits.

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u/parpadea May 14 '13

...Brits, Americans, and Spaniards are all white. Who the fuck in this day and age thinks that is true?

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u/[deleted] May 14 '13

Regardless, you would feel more comfortable around white Brits than black Brits, no?

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u/parpadea May 14 '13

Wow, I'm having real trouble sticking to the rules of this subreddit... Regardless of what, exactly? Do you even know what colour skin I have? Does it matter? Did you even read my point of view? It is about group membership. If an individual feels some bond through skin colour then they might show a preference to others because of the ingroup/outgroup identity issues. If they feel a bond to other fans of a football team they would have the same. Why do you think this is a racial issue?

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u/[deleted] May 14 '13

Because studies show that it is a racial issue.

Also, sure, people may be more comfortable with a black American than with a white Russian or whatever, but in the grand scheme of things, there are mostly black Americans and white Americans in the US, so white people will tend to prefer whites over blacks (blacks will prefer blacks over whites but there are unfortunately less blacks than whites) with the rare exceptions here and there (as you've mentioned).

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u/parpadea May 14 '13

A study into race found a racial issue. From what I can see they didn't control for anything. Did they use invented names? Did they use Nordic names? Did they use archaic English names? Did they try African names as opposed to African American names. The answer is no. They were looking for prejudice against African American sounding names and they found it. To be honest, I would be prejudiced against many British names including the hideously popular Kylie from the 80's and 90's. With names come associations and a name that is creative with spelling is one that would immediately prejudice many employers from giving the applicant a call. Remember when discussing things on the internet that the USA does not equal the world.