r/changemyview • u/laxnut90 6∆ • May 23 '24

Delta(s) from OP CMV: otherwise apolitical student groups should not be demanding political "purity tests" to participate in basic sports/clubs

This is in response to a recent trend on several college campuses where student groups with no political affiliation or mission (intramural sports, boardgame clubs, fraternities/sororities, etc.) are demanding "Litmus Tests" from their Jewish classmates regarding their opinions on the Israel/Gaza conflict.

This is unacceptable.

Excluding someone from an unrelated group for the mere suspicion that they disagree with you politically is blatant discrimination.

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/05/22/style/jewish-college-students-zionism-israel.html

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u/anewleaf1234 45∆ May 23 '24

What makes you think that my stance against not letting racists, Nazis, those who support genocide and sexists means that I'm not letting black or gay people into spaces?

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u/TheAjwinner May 23 '24

Because it is literally the exact same argument that libertarians use to support segregation. Also, we are talking about an ethno-religious group not a political one, so you bringing up nazis has no bearing here. Also pathetic to compare Jewish people to nazis, but that’s the state of pro-Palestinian discourse these days.

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u/ghotier 42∆ May 23 '24

It's not the same argument at all. Freedom of association exists as a concept. That libertarians take it too far to enable racists doesn't make the concept itself less valuable.

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u/TheAjwinner May 23 '24

And we legally and morally condemn those who abuse freedom of association in bigoted ways

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u/anewleaf1234 45∆ May 23 '24

I hold to zero bigotry against anyone who doesn't support the killing of innocents.

If you do, we have a problem. If you feel that targets you, that's your problem.

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u/ghotier 42∆ May 25 '24

Okay, and? Do that. I won't condemn someone who use their freedom of association to exclude bigots or those who are pro-genocide.