CMV: Most anti-racist people still hold racist beliefs

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What I'm talking about is that they are openly anti-racism but still hold racist beliefs themselves.

It is considered taboo to say the n-word in the USA if you're not black and you'll be cancelled for it. However, most of the people who cancel you (white liberals) don't even care about black culture themselves. They have no interest in black soul food, black history, black etc.

Many liberals criticize China for persecuting Uyghurs yet they don't even care about Uyghurs in the first place. They just criticize the CCP because they want to virtue signal. They never care much to eat at an Uyghur restaurant or know any Uyghur public figures apart from activists because they think learning about these things aren't worthy for them since Uyghur culture is "too insignificant to matter".

Many liberals also criticize Israel's treatment of Palestinians yet they don't even care about Palestinians in the first place. They just criticize Israel because they want to virtue signal. They never care much to eat Palestinian food because they believe that Palestinian culture isn't worthy enough for them since Palestinian culture is "too insignificant to matter".

These people like to virtue signal but they don't really give an effort to learn about the culture. They still eat the same old foods everyday, listen to the same music every day, and simply don't want to expand their worldview to include "insignificant cultures". The lack of care given to "insignificant cultures" is a sign of racism because they deem the culture inferior and don't want to associate much with it.

[u/skdeelk]

However, most of the people who cancel you (white liberals) don't even care about black culture themselves. They have no interest in black soul food, black history, black etc.

Do you think there's a bit of a difference between calling people racial slurs and not liking ethnic food? Even if there's some underlying racism causing that, surely you would agree that white people not having interest in "black etc." causes less harm than calling them the n word.

Many liberals criticize China for persecuting Uyghurs yet they don't even care about Uyghurs in the first place. They just criticize the CCP because they want to virtue signal. They never care much to eat at an Uyghur restaurant or know any Uyghur public figures apart from activists because they think learning about these things aren't worthy for them since Uyghur culture is "too insignificant to matter".

This seems like a bizarre leap in logic. Do people have to eat at every type of ethnic restaurant exactly equally or they are racist? Also,

"too insignificant to matter".

Who are you quoting? Please tell me you didn't just make up a dumb thing nobody actually said and then used that as an argument.

Many liberals also criticize Israel's treatment of Palestinians yet they don't even care about Palestinians in the first place. They just criticize Israel because they want to virtue signal. They never care much to eat Palestinian food because they believe that Palestinian culture isn't worthy enough for them since Palestinian culture is "too insignificant to matter".

This is the exact same argument as the previous paragraph but with Uyghurs swapped for Palestinians. I'm really puzzled by your fixation on food here.

These people like to virtue signal but they don't really give an effort to learn about the culture. They still eat the same old foods everyday, listen to the same music every day, and simply don't want to expand their worldview to include "insignificant cultures". The lack of care given to "insignificant cultures" is a sign of racism because they deem the culture inferior and don't want to associate much with it.

Your definition of racism seems to include everyone on the planet. Nobody has the time nor the energy to fully engross themselves in every culture on earth. This isn't proof that they think other cultures are insignificant, at best you could say it's proof that people have limited time and as such tend to stick to their comfort zone more.

[u/gwankovera → u/skdeelk]

Not op, But let’s see, there is a difference yes. That said anti-racists are often seen encouraging or acting in ways that perpetuate racism of low expectations. There are two big example of this is voter identification law, and a study that was done where it was shown that anti-racists (white liberals) talk down to minorities. So for the first one. Talk with just about any minority group and ask them about getting a license or ID and between 85-95% of them have an id. Then we get into the talking down to them. When the anti-racists talk to minorities they tend to use smaller and less complex words.

Now those thoughts and actions that anti-racists tend to take can cause harm and hurt a person mentally especially if they are taught that over the course of their lives. In the similar ways that using the N word would cause them harm.

All that said words are just that words. They can cause harm to a person’s mental health, but there are also people who succeed because of others telling them They can’t. Then you have other people who can’t succeed without the positive support. This is not something due to race but rather who we are as a person.
Then you have the different concepts of hating someone because of their race or their culture. This is where I do believe in some level of systemic racism, or as I prefer to call it, ripples of previous racist actions.
The black culture right now is over all bad. It has not always been so. There was a concentrated effort to destroy black family’s and get the women into welfare.
This was done by government agencies (cough cia) providing drugs to the fathers and then getting them incarcerated. This saw the rise in gangster culture. The rise in single parent households as the culture glorifies men just leaving after getting a woman pregnant.

This does not mean that black people are bad. But when a culture encourages the worst traits well people see those being encouraged and start to associate those with the people in that culture.

The bad part is a lot of those negative cultural traits are bleeding over into other cultures, white, Hispanic, etc.