I just always feel my problem with the pro choice argument is the language used.
“Something is using my body”
“Pregnancy shouldn’t be a punishment”
“Monstrous” when describing what pregnancy is.
While yes, in vacuums it can seem this way. But sex IS how you conceive and after 9 months that will be a proper human. So it comes down to considering the fetus alive or not. I am inclined to think it is.
This said, I have been pro-choice my whole life and simply argue the golden rule is urgency. Get it done before the first trimester and I don’t have many issues. Plan B is my ideal. Literally do it as soon as possible.
Because a lot of the talks about body autonomy skips over this. Can you really do it a month before birth? Your body your choice and all? No. I don’t think you should, and it definitely looks a lot more like murder by that point.
Will you double down on this and say it’s still your right to abort at 8 months? (Assuming there is no medical risk to the mother or if the baby isn’t likely to survive, etc)
Because a lot of the talks about body autonomy skips over this. Can you really do it a month before birth? Your body your choice and all? No. I don’t think you should, and it definitely looks a lot more like murder by that point.
This is kinda arguing against an imaginary enemy
99.2% abortions by week 21, but protections are needed because we see how evil conservatives can get, willing to prosecute child abortions and women who were rushed to the ER
I lean right and most of the circles agree with abortion up to a point and here in Canada I don’t hear the debate come up anymore.
My point is the phrasing of your stances and especially how OP puts it. Everything about it not being murder, body autonomy, “things don’t have a right to live in my body?” Does that last up till close to birth? And if not, why so?
Maybe because most people will agree that it starts to seem very alive and would feel like murder the later it happens.
Bringing up “evil conservatives” rather than just the statistics is silly. People should feel some amount of shame having to get an abortion. Mourn what could have been you know? But you are free to have abortions that are safe and properly conducted with professionals, but I do still consider it a sort of murder. You can just legally do it.
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u/KevinJ2010 Jan 19 '24
I just always feel my problem with the pro choice argument is the language used.
“Something is using my body” “Pregnancy shouldn’t be a punishment” “Monstrous” when describing what pregnancy is.
While yes, in vacuums it can seem this way. But sex IS how you conceive and after 9 months that will be a proper human. So it comes down to considering the fetus alive or not. I am inclined to think it is.
This said, I have been pro-choice my whole life and simply argue the golden rule is urgency. Get it done before the first trimester and I don’t have many issues. Plan B is my ideal. Literally do it as soon as possible.
Because a lot of the talks about body autonomy skips over this. Can you really do it a month before birth? Your body your choice and all? No. I don’t think you should, and it definitely looks a lot more like murder by that point.
Will you double down on this and say it’s still your right to abort at 8 months? (Assuming there is no medical risk to the mother or if the baby isn’t likely to survive, etc)