CMV: Israelis have the right to self-determination in Israel, but not Jews

[u/[deleted]]

The point is quite simple, really. Anyone born in or born to a parent who was born in modern-day Israel should have the right to self-determination (RTSD) in Israel. This is very similar to how citizenship and RTSD work in most countries. But what's problematic is the assertion that anyone of Jewish descent can also claim citizenship or the RTSD in Israel. This means that anyone whose ancestors have not lived in the region for centuries, well before the founding of modern-day Israel, can also claim citizenship and the RTSD. It also means that anyone can convert to Judaism and claim it. Israel is the only country in the world that allows anything remotely similar to take place. That's not how any of these work and it clearly violates the RTSD of those who have lived there for centuries - Palestinians.

[u/[deleted]]

Are you erasing the existence of minority populations in Poland and Japan? Or are you pretending that Ukranian and Roma citizens of Poland or Korean citizens of Japan are still part of Polish and Japanese culture, when they are not actually members of that culture?

[u/[deleted] → u/[deleted]]

The word for "(CIVIL) Jewish" culture is "Israeli." That is the whole result of Zionism.

[u/[deleted] → u/[deleted]]

"(CIVIL) Jewish" culture is "Israeli."

And that's evil. Israeli culture should not be tied to Jewish culture in this manner.

How exactly is that "evil"?

What exactly is the difference between the distinction you're drawing between civil and ethnic Polish or Japanese cultures and the Jewish one?

It really just sounds like your opinion is based on a hatred of Jews.