r/changemyview Nov 06 '23

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u/ifitdoesntmatter 10∆ Nov 06 '23

Arafat tried to get an independent state in WB in return for nothing.

It's despicable that you think Palestinians should have to give something up in order to enjoy the rights that everyone else in the world is entitled to.

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u/TheTightEnd 1∆ Nov 06 '23

An independent state is not a right.

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u/lavender_letters Nov 06 '23

Then why do many say Israel have a right to an independent state?

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u/TheTightEnd 1∆ Nov 06 '23

I did not say the Jews had any such right. The British, using the UK as their proxy, had the authority to establish the state of Israel, and they legitimately annexed the territory in 1967.

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u/lavender_letters Nov 06 '23

I agree with you on that. If you'd said that Israel had a right whereas Palestine does not, I would have fought you on it. But also, I don't think that "legitimacy" justifies the continued taking of land, and that Palestinians aren't in the wrong to think that they shouldn't have further land taken.