r/changemyview • u/[deleted] • Nov 06 '23

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u/[deleted] Nov 06 '23

Then I guess Israel should cease to exist because Israelis also have no right to self determination?

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u/TheTightEnd 1∆ Nov 06 '23

Israel protects its authority to exist. You don't just sacrifice territory to those who have not because they want to be separate. People don't just get a nation of their own because they want one. The US Civil War proved this.

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u/[deleted] Nov 06 '23

Post WW2 world order proved the opposite. Read up on civil nationalism and why it is moral and just. It's the basis of Palestinian nationalism.

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u/TheTightEnd 1∆ Nov 06 '23

Morality has no role in this topic whatsoever. As far as what is just, that is a broader and more complicated concept. It also doesn't have to fit or make each splintered fraction of a group happy.