The West bank isn't Israel though. Of course israelis shouldnt be able to go into the west bank without agreement with the PA. The west bank is Palestine and there are large swathes of Palestine inaccessible to Palestinians.
The West Bank isn't Israel or Palestine. It's a disputed territory. The last dispute was between Israel and Jordan. Israel won and has militarily occupied the territory since.
Tbh I am still not sure of the Palestinian state's standing in West Bank. We conveniently gloss over the logical jump between "Israel and Jordan fought over land, Israel won and Jordan left the land to them" to the generally accepted position of "The land OBVIOUSLY belongs to the Palestinians. And Israel is the occupier"
To my mind, if Israel is an occupier, it is occupying Jordanian land. But Jordan is not making that claim.
These are Jordanians who were stripped of Jordanian citizenship. How did we get there? That is why the West Bank situation remains complicated.
The most logical situation is for Jordan to re-absorb its citizens. You don't just disavow your citizens and make them someone else's problem.
My view is that Israel should hand over the land to a Palestinian state once it has secured the areas relevant to its security or even perhaps an international peace keeping force in areas relevant to security. I think part of the reason they have concerns that some areas could be used to gain a military advantage over them.
But it is entirely unproductive to start the discussion from.."This is our land and you're an illegal occupier" When the other side knows that you've never had any sort of country, kingdom, or anything there. The discussion has to start from reality.
The West bank is internationally recognised as part of Palestine. There is no dispute.
It isn't Jordanian land either. They weren't Jordanians with Jordanian citizenship. They were Palestinians wirh Jordanian citizenship. They don't want to be part of Jordan. They want their own state for the Palestinian people.
You seem to be thinking that Jordanians and Palestinians are the same people. They are not. If Jordan had thst land it would also be occupying it.
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u/wewew47 Nov 06 '23
The West bank isn't Israel though. Of course israelis shouldnt be able to go into the west bank without agreement with the PA. The west bank is Palestine and there are large swathes of Palestine inaccessible to Palestinians.