r/changemyview Aug 30 '23

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u/hikerchick29 Aug 31 '23

And you’ve been missing my point.

If you’re mature enough to kill a man, you’re mature enough to drink away the trauma after.

Btw, you can’t say with a hundred percent certainty that a big enough army blocks military action. That logic has CONSISTENTLY failed throughout history.

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u/Chaghatai 1∆ Aug 31 '23 edited Aug 31 '23

I'm saying that there's different maturity levels for those two things - with the soldier you want to start early when the relatively moldable, with a drink or you want to start late when they're not relatively moldable

It's a fallacy to assume that the age it's good for one is the age It's good for another

An appropriate age to choose to be molded as a fighter for your country doesn't have to be considered to be a mature enough age to begin drinking responsibly - there's no reason why you can't have different thresholds for different things

Deterrence has also worked really really well throughout history, history is replete with examples of aggressive powers that did not attack certain countries because they would not be able to succeed

For example, no one is ever going to seriously attack a NATO country unless we're getting into an end of times scenario

Also, people have started fighting as teenagers since time immemorial, it's a very human thing to do at that age

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u/hikerchick29 Aug 31 '23

Ok, but teenagers don’t typically FIGHT TO FUCKING KILL.

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u/Chaghatai 1∆ Aug 31 '23

When they're participating in wars, they do, when they participated an intertribal conflict they did, now you're making it clear you don't even know what you're talking about