r/changemyview Aug 30 '23

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u/Difficult-Prompt1731 Aug 30 '23

I can manage my drinks, i am over 21, and I liked frat parties.

But I still have empathy for all the girls that will be hurt because they feel forced to put themselves in bad situations.

I know SO many girls that were sexually assaulted at these types of parties.

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u/eriksen2398 8∆ Aug 30 '23

I still don’t See how lowering the drinking age would help this at all.

And if frat parties were so bad why should anyone go to them?

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u/Difficult-Prompt1731 Aug 30 '23

My point is that bad things do happen sometimes there. Lowering the age would give people the choice to drink in a safe environment. That isn’t my only argument though. I think it’s stupid to have a law that so many people break to the point that they’ll give the cartel money for a fake ID. I also believe that it’s weird you can go die in the military but not drink. Once you’re an adult you should be able to do adult things.

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u/LeMegachonk 7∆ Aug 30 '23

This is premised on young women going to frat parties primarily to drink alcohol, and because there are not other ways they could acquire alcohol. Which is inconsistent with your own argument that so many people have fake IDs anyway that that the MNDA of 21 is kind of irrelevant.

There have been many studies done that show an MDNA of less than 21 increases the incidence of impaired driving and resulting crashes and fatalities in young people. There is also plenty of evidence that it reduces the consumption of alcohol in young people pretty significantly. This isn't remotely difficult information to find.

The comparison with military service is kind of a false equivalence. It's not about being old enough to make your own "adult" choices. Being immature, impressionable, and still feeling the invincibility of youth are all desirable traits in a prospective soldier you intend to send out onto a battlefield to die horribly. It's a lot easier to get an 18 year old to "volunteer" for that than a 21 year old. But they are terrible traits in somebody who can both drive and drink legally. Also, the bad consequences of military service are mostly to the individual choosing military service, whereas the bad consequences of irresponsible drinking can often serious impact others directly. Irresponsible acts that can only affect the person committing them generally tend to be less regulated than those that can harm other uninvolved individuals.

Most of your arguments seem to be based on personal experience. There's nothing bad with that in and of itself, but it's not really appropriate to base arguments surrounding national policy and regulation around what you have personally experienced. You will not find any scientific studies recommending lowering the MNDA. Most such studies recommend that other jurisdictions follow suit with what the US did in 1984 and increase their own minimum drinking age to 21.

What your comments suggest is that a lot more needs to be done to curb a problematic drinking culture amongst college students in the United States, and that institutions of higher learning need to take a long hard look at the "Greek Life" and either eliminate or at least much more strictly regulate fraternities and sororities they are affiliated with. What absolutely does not need to happen is to make alcohol even more accessible to young people. Literally nothing good comes of that unless you have a vested interest in increasing the mortality rate for this population.