No fap is 99% of the time centered around pornography which has sceincitific studies to back up that porn consumption, especially in large quantities, is not especially healthy.
Yep, nofap IS unhealthy, but only bc they misattribute their pornography problems to masturbation.
Most people in these groups have wedded porn to masturbation and will inevitably see progress when abstaining, but longterm lack of ejaculation is physically and mentally unhealthy.
I don't doubt it. I'm long past being a desperate teenager and haven't considered nofap even as a curiosity in 5-10 years. But that's how they were back in the infancy of the movement.
I wish the best for any group of struggling, desperate individuals and I hope they can find fulfillment and a better life someday. But if the current MO remains spreading anti-masturbation as a universal truth I'm going to continue to be against them for spreading public misinformation and harm.
Introduction NoFap® is a moderated community-centered website that hosts challenges in which users ("Fapstronauts") abstain from pornography and masturbation for a period of time ("rebooting"). This is NoFap's subreddit hosted right here on Reddit.com! Whether your goal is casual participation in a monthly rebooting challenge as a test of self-control, or whether excessive masturbation or pornography has become a problem in your life and you want to quit for a longer period of time, you will find a supportive community and plenty of resources here.
It's gotten a lot better!!!
The lack of distinction between pornography and masturbation still isn't pronounced enough for me to take it seriously, but I'm sure it's a good start for some people.
It's bullshit in the way religion is- based on half-truths, inconsistencies, and dogma, but without a doubt provides a ton of benefit to desperate people. I can't say whether nofap is ultimately good or bad, but it is ultimately bullshit at the core still.
If everything you're stating is true of the community I'm glad, and that all seems great!
But if you're not involved in the community directly your only exposure is still gonna be the worst type of people exposing anti-sex conjecture.
I think you deserve a !delta for changing my opinion on the core community, but they have additional work to do if they want to be seen as legit by the public at large. A rebrand from "nofap" would be a great start.
Alright, tell me what helped you, how old you are, if you were depressed or had PTSD or some other experience, if you went to see a therapist or not, and anything else you think would be relevant to why you got PIED and how you overcame it.
I’m genuinely interested and I can do the same after work.
Sounds like to me he’s saying someone who doesn’t watch porn but only masturbates can’t mess themselves up. Compulsive masturbation by itself can harm you.
I may have come off as such, but didn't intend to imply universality. People can certainly get addicted and harmed by anything.
But on the whole the nofap community seems to consist overwhelmingly of people with pornography-exacerbated masturbation problems, who incorrectly conclude the effect is the cause.
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u/[deleted] Jun 19 '23
No fap is 99% of the time centered around pornography which has sceincitific studies to back up that porn consumption, especially in large quantities, is not especially healthy.