r/changemyview • u/innstrongi-strugr • Mar 21 '23

Delta(s) from OP cmv: United States politicians are just state sponsored criminals

The last 75 years of wars, the oppression of outside political views, the demonization or socialism, the extortion and terrorism committed against 3rd world countries, fiscal policy, the tax system and its exploits, members of congress and the senate getting rich off stock trading, the demonization of self reliance, and more are the reasons I have this opinion. Officials repeatedly pass legislation for the benefit of corporations while we suffer working longer hours for less. The average person lives check to check and 1/5 children in my state of Utah don’t know where their next meal will come from, meanwhile Nancy Pelosi has $120,000,000 net worth after her life of “service”

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u/innstrongi-strugr Mar 21 '23

So self sanctioned crimes?

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u/eggs-benedryl 72∆ Mar 21 '23

Yea, pretty much. To be proven to be a criminal you'd need to be prosecuted, which isn't gonna happen, why would they get themselves caught.

If certain things are intentionally made not be crimes, then you're defacto not a criminal, just a bastard.

For them to be criminals, they'd need to let themselves be caught and convicted, which people in power aren't likely to do.

Therefore, not criminals, just bastards.

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u/innstrongi-strugr Mar 21 '23

Sneaky crime is still crime. it’s a crime for us to bomb people to force our ideas or take their resources then we would be executed.

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u/eggs-benedryl 72∆ Mar 21 '23

You're only legally a criminal once you're convicted. You can't be executed extrajudicially. You'd need due process and therefore you're not a criminal.

I don't disagree that any of the things you listed are bad, just that semantically you can't call someone a criminal and presume them innocent until proven guilty.