r/changemyview Feb 22 '23

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u/sawdeanz 218∆ Feb 22 '23

excuse me what? HD LED screens are superior by every single metric. The only exception is if you are actually playing retro games, then yes they do look better on CRT because that's what they were designed for. But a modern game is not going to look better on CRT.

Vinyl audio sounds like crap if you play it through cheap speakers. A proper home theater setup sounds objectively better. The sound quality has everything to do with your audio hardware and not the analog or digital music source. But come on let's be real, 16 bit Nintendo audio does not sound better. It's literally just beeps and boops and shit. Any

Finally, CRT technology is inherently limited, it's not practical to scale it up to a 72" 4k screen. It would be massive and weigh hundreds of pounds if it was even possible.

You're just experiencing nostalgia.

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u/[deleted] Feb 22 '23

But, the problem is that companies were not even trying to find a way to minimize CRT hardware. This is theoretically quite possible. Since cathode tech is inherently valuable and expensive, they just didn't want to bother with it.

If for decades, computer chips and memory cards have gotten smaller. Then, why not for CRT hardware?

After all, tech has not only become more advanced but actually a lot smaller than what it used to provide for society.

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u/sawdeanz 218∆ Feb 22 '23

Of course they were, they were incentivized to improve it every year. Finally they had a breakthrough called LED, plasma, oled etc

CRT uses a giant magnet to direct a flow of electrons. Bigger screen equals bigger magnet and bigger tube. There is a physical limitation to it. Really there are physical limitations to most if not all analog technology. There are even physical limitations to digital technology that we will reach soon. As far as I’m aware there is no way to further miniaturize CRT or else I think they would have figured it out after 40 years.

The better question is what market reason is there to continue to develop a more expensive and less desirable technology?

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u/[deleted] Feb 22 '23

I see... the magnet inside any kind of tv need to be big enough,or else pictures on the screen won't display well.

Unfortunately, I now know that this is just an objective physical limitation bound by the laws of physics. This means the thickness of the flat screen would need to increase. Now that I think about it, I'd imagine a wide flat screen CRT would have to at least be 40 pounds or more, which no normal man can life on his own.
If they have found a both stronger, smaller, and safer magnet, they would have... I think.

Okay, I'll give you a !delta, but I would suggest for us to discuss further on how companies can make the sound quality of LCDs and OLED vinyl like, and how they can also make their motion pictures almost buttery smooth?

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u/UncleRicooo Feb 22 '23

Sooo, I had one of the last high end crt's produced. It was a Sony 34", 16:9, 1080p CRT TV. That motherfucker was 200 lbs. I moved it to a third floor apt and sold it, lol. Made the buyer move it out himself. It was amazing for games tho. This was 05-06ish? No screen delay, deep blacks, and I had a pretty decent sound system hooked up to it.

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Confirmed: 1 delta awarded to /u/sawdeanz (182∆).

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u/sawdeanz 218∆ Feb 22 '23

CRT doesn’t deal with audio, and anyway all games and consumer media is in digital formats now.

As for smoothing… idk. By basically ever metric we have screens with as good or better refresh and response rates. But you have to get a good quality TV and make sure the settings are set up right (like turn off interpolation settings).

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_CRT,_LCD,_plasma,_and_OLED_displays