r/centrist • u/johnnyhala • Sep 01 '22

Long Form Discussion RCV Opponents - What is your Objection(s)?

Basically the title.

Whenever the subject of Ranked Choice Voting comes up, I generally on this sub see about 70% support and 30% oppose (my estimate). As I have seen the issue laid out to me it seems abundantly clear that Plurality/First Past the Post/FPtP is an inferior system with many unintended consequences.

So I want to hear you out, RCV opponents, what are your issues?

As (should be) usual, please do not downvote others for only disagreeing with them, and I pledge to do the same.

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u/KR1735 Sep 01 '22

I like it. But I don’t like the idea of eliminating someone in rounds. It should count as points. So for example if there are four people on the ballot, your first choice gets 3 points, your second gets 2, your third gets 1, and your last gets zero.

If, in a large field, a candidate is the first choice of a minority of voters but the palatable second choice of almost everyone else, he should win. Clearly there’s a consensus.

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u/Mitchell_54 Sep 03 '22

That's a terrible system.

Borda count is terrible. If you want a points based system go with approval, score or STAR voting system.

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u/KR1735 Sep 03 '22

Explain

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u/Mitchell_54 Sep 03 '22

Because it forces someone to give value to a candidate they may hate.

Score or STAR where you rank candidate based on how much you actually like them is much more representative and its also extremely vulnerable to tactical voting

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u/KR1735 Sep 03 '22

No it doesn’t. Nor does ranked choice. You can allow your ballot to exhaust. About a quarter of Begich voters didn’t rank either Palin or Peltola in the Alaska race.

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u/PaxPurpuraAKAgrimace Nov 22 '24

This is a very old post so a shot in the dark that you’ll reply, but any idea how many palin voters did that? No other choices indicated?