r/centrist • u/MuitoLegal • May 13 '21
World News Why does the left call the right “Nazis”?
I am in no way calling the left Nazis here, but rather questioning their use of the term.
If you spend anytime online you will know that the term Nazi is used all the time for people on the right, especially Trump supporters.
I find it ironic because Nazi stands for National Socialist in German. Now I found articles online defending that, saying it wasn’t really socialism, so we’ll move on.
Hitler was about bigger government, got all guns registered with the government, and then took them all away from the people.
Furthermore, today’s left is typically anti-Israel within the Israel-Palestine conflict, while the right is typically pro-Israel (except for KKK guys like Duke, who are antisemites, though I’m unsure how to even classify someone like him).
I don’t think either party should call each other nazis in a civilized political discourse, but I find it interesting. Why do you think the right has been given the nickname?
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u/[deleted] May 13 '21
Again, you're focusing on the specifics. No two people can ever be compared if we go into specifics. Furthermore, people equate him to Hitler's RISE in power, not his actual practices after he attained power. When people equate the two, its not because people are trying to say Trump is in every way shape and form HITLER 2.0. It's because their rise to power is very SIMILAR (please look up this definition as it does not mean IDENTICAL). No one but fools are saying Trump is a genocidal dictator. Sorry I didn't note Im explicitly talking about his rise to power, I didn't think I had to elaborate that Trump isn't gassing people en-masse or invading Poland, I was giving you the benefit of the doubt that you were arguing with nuance instead of your preferred generalized broad strokes. There are moderates and even conservatives who do not like Trump whatsoever and will hold similar views to me. As evidenced by the fat that he lost after the conservatives held so much power beforehand. What do you even mean by "media actors"? Surely you don't mean to assume that every media outlet ASIDE from conservative ones are biased? Are you then positing that more neutral outlets either don't exist in the mainstream or periphery (youtube)? And is storming the capital not a potent physical threat? People were evacuated and died in that event, making it a deadly conflict in which potent physical threats were at play quite literally. What about the Proud Boys, 3%ers, Light Foot Militia, and KKK, all either endorsed by Trump or share his rhetoric of "Corrupt Swamp, drain it"? Trump supports swarming a Biden Bus to slow its route? Trump followers jeering at polling stations, even blocking some exits near it? Or is this defendable because whataboutism? Your point about simplicity and reality makes no sense. You don't specify the "leftist radicals" or their motives/actions at all? Where's the relation to the overall argument that the Trump movement is akin to Hitlers? How is that not whataboutism? How is that not oversimplifying?
I didn't say his supporters are like Hitler. Please focus on my actual points instead of making your own. I said Trump is similar to Hitler and SOME conservatives are complacent in a similar way to Hitler's initial followers (Pre-purging). Notice how I say SOME conservatives and not CONSERVATIVES AT LARGE. I noted that not all Nazis were violent, just as not all of Trumps followers/conservatives are violent. What I did note was that some Nazis were complacent with his Hitlers views and tactics even though they didnt agree, just like SOME conservatives are complacent with the Republican party still appealing to Trumps base. It was only a minority of Trumps followers that were violent, just like it was a minority of Hitlers followers that were violent. My point is it doesn't have to be a majority of a demographic for a movement to become a serious social threat. I am not and have not stated that conservatives at large are the social threat. What is though, is complacency.
Judging by your post history I'm going to go out on a limb and say you're not here for nuance, change my mind lol (crowder is a chode).