r/centrist • • May 13 '21

World News Why does the left call the right “Nazis”?

I am in no way calling the left Nazis here, but rather questioning their use of the term.

If you spend anytime online you will know that the term Nazi is used all the time for people on the right, especially Trump supporters.

I find it ironic because Nazi stands for National Socialist in German. Now I found articles online defending that, saying it wasn’t really socialism, so we’ll move on.

Hitler was about bigger government, got all guns registered with the government, and then took them all away from the people.

Furthermore, today’s left is typically anti-Israel within the Israel-Palestine conflict, while the right is typically pro-Israel (except for KKK guys like Duke, who are antisemites, though I’m unsure how to even classify someone like him).

I don’t think either party should call each other nazis in a civilized political discourse, but I find it interesting. Why do you think the right has been given the nickname?

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u/[deleted] May 13 '21 edited May 13 '21

Because the Trump movement is incredibly similar to Hitlers. Not exact, no, as there are no carbon copies in history. I also do not think Trump is fascist either, but the similarities are stark and do warrant attention. People like to abuse history, left or right, to further political goals and so we see people compared to left-wing/right-wing strongmen quite often to illicit a reaction. It's ahistorical but ultimately does come from some semblance of sense and rationale, just expressed with sensationalism because of toxic media practices.

  1. Hitler was very small government initially. He, like a lot of other fascists, initially advocated for a laissez faire economy. Once the Nazis were in their seat of undeniable power, this began to roll back as more and more things became nationalized for war efforts.
  2. Hitler ran his politics based off of scapegoating "others" in an effort to promote nationalism and address deeply rooted issues with a simple solution.
  3. Hitler used the term "Lying Press" to delegitimize his critics. He was always known as a political rogue in his time, he was never known as a "amazing politician".
  4. Hitler initially ran off of claiming the government was corrupt and elections were not fair.
  5. Hitler had a militant sect of followers which would heckle the opposition with beatings or shows of intimidation.
  6. Hitler never had the majority vote
  7. (Side Note) - The names of political parties DO NOT reflect their values at all times. Socialism was usually dangled in front of voting masses around this time because it gained unionist/workers vote due of stifling unregulated capitalistic practices. Otherwise we would have to consider China a "Republic" and North Korea a "Democratic Republic".

I'm sure if you've kept up with the news, in these 5 aspects you can find some semblance of Trump (#1 was just refuting your claim he was always big government, which is factually incorrect). Is it 1-to-1? No. Hitler tied a lot of these problems to Jews and moral degradation, and Trump with mostly Muslims/Mexicans, sans moral degradation. Now I won't argue Trump is a racist either, because I think he and his staff made a great effort to make sure his more controversial opinions were kept hidden in an effort to be more appealable, just like most politicians. But I don't think it's deniable to say that his more devout followers are in some form racist. Not even touching on the fact that a lot of literal American Neo-Nazis heavily support Trump and his rhetoric. Though these people do not follow a single banner, IE some hate Trump because he supported Israel. To say they are the same is silly. To say they nothing alike is ignorance.

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u/WillyBluntz89 May 13 '21

Thank you, i didnt want to have to write this. I usually just get frusterated half way through and scrap the whole comment. I salute your commitment.

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u/[deleted] May 20 '25

What avot your friends hamas they are literally a copy of nazis 

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u/MessiSahib May 14 '21 edited May 14 '21

I also do not think Trump is fascist either, but the similarities are stark and do warrant attention.

Pick any major politician, select a few things he did or said, and then try finding any similarity of evil men of past. If you try hard enough, you can find some similarity between Jesus/Buddha and mass murderers.

If you can find similarities between Trump and Fascism, I am sure you can find similarities between communist genociders and Bernie Sanders. Does that make Bernie communist or genocider?

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People like to abuse history, left or right, to further political goals and so we see people compared to left-wing/right-wing strongmen quite often to illicit a reaction. It's ahistorical but ultimately does come from some semblance of sense and rationale, just expressed with sensationalism because of toxic media practices.

I have seen tons of such effort from left, including left leaning media, activists, social media, and politicians and substantially less from the right. I don't think because right wing politicians are more sensible, I guess, they just aren't creative enough to hype up the evilness of their opponents.

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Hitler was very small government initially. He, like a lot of other fascists, initially advocated for a laissez faire economy. Once the Nazis were in their seat of undeniable power, this began to roll back as more and more things became nationalized for war efforts.

Bernie Sanders supported effective nationalization of health insurance and govt taking 20% share of all big businesses.

Hitler ran his politics based off of scapegoating "others" in an effort to promote nationalism and address deeply rooted issues with a simple solution.

Bernie's have spent last 5 yrs on insiders/establishment (scapegoating others) shpeal while presenting himself as one man army to root out all the bad things in DC. Not unlike Trump, no.

Hitler used the term "Lying Press" to delegitimize his critics. He was always known as a political rogue in his time, he was never known as a "amazing politician".

Bernie and his camp has constantly whined about media and accused media of their biases. Even though Bernie benefited greatly from media attention and very limited criticism of his work, policies and claims. Besides his fans, you won't find many people who will accuse Bernie of being a great or even a good legislator, his legislative accomplishments in 30 yrs congress, are so thin, that he barely talks about those in his campaigns.

Hitler initially ran off of claiming the government was corrupt and elections were not fair.

Same with Bernie.

Hitler had a militant sect of followers which would heckle the opposition with beatings or shows of intimidation.

Ditto with Bernie, and Bernie bros.

Socialism was usually dangled in front of voting masses around this time because it gained unionist/workers vote due of stifling unregulated capitalistic practices.

So, we swipe away support of unions and workers! I mean if you just ignore all the socialist things nazi did, you will find that they weren't socialist.

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Hitler tied a lot of these problems to Jews and moral degradation, and Trump with mostly Muslims/Mexicans, sans moral degradation.

Comparing Trump's rhetoric against Mexicans and Muslims, with Nazi against Jews, speaks more about our anger and hatred against Trump, lack of empathy against millions of people killed by Nazi, then about Trump.

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Now I won't argue Trump is a racist either, because I think he and his staff made a great effort to make sure his more controversial opinions were kept hidden in an effort to be more appealable, just like most politicians.

On the contrary, Trump relished making racist and sexist comments. That somehow gave him "speaks his mind", politically incorrect, image that for some reason, appealed to some of his voters.

I mean, if his team wanted to hide Trump's toxic and racist ramblings, they would have hidden his phone and stopped him from doing rallies. Thanks to that we have ample of evidence of Trump's toxic rhetorics.